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Drew4UTk

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Transfer Portal
« on: January 11, 2019, 01:13:15 PM »
or.... free agency?

So it was set up to allow more transparency- and it's done just that.  A student-athlete can enter the 'portal' without express permission from their coach, and shop for scholarship... the aren't obligated to transfer, they are just 'weighing options'.

If you were an HC and a kid on your team just entered his name in this 'portal' (which is basically a spreadsheet on a web page that requires username/password authenticated access) would you allow them to continue participating on your program?  

Fields entered the portal, was offered by tOSU, and announced intention to transfer- he just may get a waiver and be available next season.. Tate Martell followed suit- perhaps he's been made aware of some sort of deal with tOSU and Fields ensuring him a starting position?  who know.... but it certainly prompted Martell to enter this 'portal'...  

this thread isn't about the players and the deals, though.. it's about the concept of this 'portal' which came online in October of last year.  

what are your thoughts on it?  good? bad?  from coaches perspective? from players? .... is this something that has potential to alter the landscape of College Football?
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 01:21:48 PM »
If I was a head coach and a guy entered it without me having any clue about it, I'd question my abilities as a coach.
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 01:31:29 PM »
maybe.... but young men are fickle and often driven by emotions instead of measured logic and rationale- which is a nice way to say that "sometimes to get potential out of them you've got to be tough", and 'tough' could easily drive a kid to entering his digits on this portal thing...

it's not even clear to me how a kid 'enters' his name... I'm assuming they file some sort of form and send it to the NCAA who manages the enterprise?

If I were a HC and one of my players did such a thing I'd be plenty pissed about wasting all the effort recruiting and developing them, and with their indecisiveness on display, I'd be likely to sit them out....... of all team functions..... at least until they made a decision.  

If i were a player, I'd believe the portal a godsend- allowing me to explore other potential possibilities.  I'd figure, for instance, if i were a sophomore QB and had a really good season at a mid-major, and noticed several P5 teams were losing QB's to, say, the draft, and those players matched my style of play and my numbers supported the comparison?  I'd for sure enter this 'portal'...

^and 'that' is what is capable of 'altering the landscape'..... P5 coaches could leverage it to find more proven players with far less effort.  it's potentially the equiv of a vacuum cleaner sucking ALL off the 'better than average' and 'top skill' players into the existing power structures- with potential of eliminating, perhaps, any competition found between 'emerging' programs and existing powers...
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 01:39:54 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on January 11, 2019, 01:21:48 PM
If I was a head coach and a guy entered it without me having any clue about it, I'd question my abilities as a coach.
But that’s not how it works. 
Kid goes to school, school puts name in. 
So the coach will know. They might get blindsided by the request, but it doesn’t happen without a coach knowing. 
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 07:47:38 PM »
Is it just me, or is this Fields kid just expecting the world do whatever he wants?  Goes to UGA, expects to get PT over a guy who took them to the playoff?  Doesn't' beat him out, so wants to take his ball and leave after one year........and wants to be immediately eligible??


'Scuse me, kiddo.....that's not how life works.  
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 09:14:33 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 11, 2019, 07:47:38 PM
Is it just me, or is this Fields kid just expecting the world do whatever he wants?  Goes to UGA, expects to get PT over a guy who took them to the playoff?  Doesn't' beat him out, so wants to take his ball and leave after one year........and wants to be immediately eligible??


'Scuse me, kiddo.....that's not how life works.  
Talented people are often granted much leeway. That is unfortunately too a factor in life. 
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2019, 09:52:29 AM »
this is why it's sometimes better to develop 3 stars than recruit 5 stars
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2019, 10:31:06 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on January 11, 2019, 07:47:38 PM
Is it just me, or is this Fields kid just expecting the world do whatever he wants?  Goes to UGA, expects to get PT over a guy who took them to the playoff?  Doesn't' beat him out, so wants to take his ball and leave after one year........and wants to be immediately eligible??


'Scuse me, kiddo.....that's not how life works.  
Are you suggesting that you don't find his grievance to be legit? 

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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2019, 01:52:22 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on January 11, 2019, 01:39:54 PM
But that’s not how it works.
Kid goes to school, school puts name in.
So the coach will know. They might get blindsided by the request, but it doesn’t happen without a coach knowing.
A kid can go to his coach, but doesn't necessarily have to.  But that isn't my point - a coach should be aware enough of his players that he would know what their future holds at the school and why they might want to transfer.  It isn't as if transfers are bad things - lots and lots of people transfer schools that have nothing to do with sports.  It would be dumb to think a kid would make a decision at 18 that he will automatically still be happy with at age 22.  But the football coach should have a handle on these things, at least indirectly.
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2019, 10:23:11 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on January 12, 2019, 01:52:22 PM
A kid can go to his coach, but doesn't necessarily have to.  But that isn't my point - a coach should be aware enough of his players that he would know what their future holds at the school and why they might want to transfer.  It isn't as if transfers are bad things - lots and lots of people transfer schools that have nothing to do with sports.  It would be dumb to think a kid would make a decision at 18 that he will automatically still be happy with at age 22.  But the football coach should have a handle on these things, at least indirectly.
Ahh,  misunderstood what you meant 
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2019, 10:35:58 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on January 12, 2019, 10:31:06 AM
Are you suggesting that you don't find his grievance to be legit?
His grievance isn’t legit. At all.
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2019, 08:52:08 PM »
Uhh, this woman I married wasn't as freaky in the bedroom as I wanted, so I'll be taking my talents elsewhere.  Oh, and I don't want to have to pay for the divorce.  :wtf:
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2019, 09:53:24 PM »
The NCAA is considering a new rule that would reduce the number of graduate transfers in football and basketball.

https://collegefootball.ap.org/huskermax/article/slow-flow-grad-transfers-ncaa-could-constrain-schools
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Re: Transfer Portal
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2019, 11:50:05 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 17, 2019, 09:53:24 PM
The NCAA is considering a new rule that would reduce the number of graduate transfers in football and basketball.

https://collegefootball.ap.org/huskermax/article/slow-flow-grad-transfers-ncaa-could-constrain-schools
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