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Title: Transfer Portal
Post by: Drew4UTk on January 11, 2019, 01:13:15 PM
or.... free agency?

So it was set up to allow more transparency- and it's done just that.  A student-athlete can enter the 'portal' without express permission from their coach, and shop for scholarship... the aren't obligated to transfer, they are just 'weighing options'.

If you were an HC and a kid on your team just entered his name in this 'portal' (which is basically a spreadsheet on a web page that requires username/password authenticated access) would you allow them to continue participating on your program?  

Fields entered the portal, was offered by tOSU, and announced intention to transfer- he just may get a waiver and be available next season.. Tate Martell followed suit- perhaps he's been made aware of some sort of deal with tOSU and Fields ensuring him a starting position?  who know.... but it certainly prompted Martell to enter this 'portal'...  

this thread isn't about the players and the deals, though.. it's about the concept of this 'portal' which came online in October of last year.  

what are your thoughts on it?  good? bad?  from coaches perspective? from players? .... is this something that has potential to alter the landscape of College Football?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: MaximumSam on January 11, 2019, 01:21:48 PM
If I was a head coach and a guy entered it without me having any clue about it, I'd question my abilities as a coach.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Drew4UTk on January 11, 2019, 01:31:29 PM
maybe.... but young men are fickle and often driven by emotions instead of measured logic and rationale- which is a nice way to say that "sometimes to get potential out of them you've got to be tough", and 'tough' could easily drive a kid to entering his digits on this portal thing...

it's not even clear to me how a kid 'enters' his name... I'm assuming they file some sort of form and send it to the NCAA who manages the enterprise?

If I were a HC and one of my players did such a thing I'd be plenty pissed about wasting all the effort recruiting and developing them, and with their indecisiveness on display, I'd be likely to sit them out....... of all team functions..... at least until they made a decision.  

If i were a player, I'd believe the portal a godsend- allowing me to explore other potential possibilities.  I'd figure, for instance, if i were a sophomore QB and had a really good season at a mid-major, and noticed several P5 teams were losing QB's to, say, the draft, and those players matched my style of play and my numbers supported the comparison?  I'd for sure enter this 'portal'...

^and 'that' is what is capable of 'altering the landscape'..... P5 coaches could leverage it to find more proven players with far less effort.  it's potentially the equiv of a vacuum cleaner sucking ALL off the 'better than average' and 'top skill' players into the existing power structures- with potential of eliminating, perhaps, any competition found between 'emerging' programs and existing powers...
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on January 11, 2019, 01:39:54 PM
If I was a head coach and a guy entered it without me having any clue about it, I'd question my abilities as a coach.
But that’s not how it works. 
Kid goes to school, school puts name in. 
So the coach will know. They might get blindsided by the request, but it doesn’t happen without a coach knowing. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 11, 2019, 07:47:38 PM
Is it just me, or is this Fields kid just expecting the world do whatever he wants?  Goes to UGA, expects to get PT over a guy who took them to the playoff?  Doesn't' beat him out, so wants to take his ball and leave after one year........and wants to be immediately eligible??


'Scuse me, kiddo.....that's not how life works.  
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on January 11, 2019, 09:14:33 PM
Is it just me, or is this Fields kid just expecting the world do whatever he wants?  Goes to UGA, expects to get PT over a guy who took them to the playoff?  Doesn't' beat him out, so wants to take his ball and leave after one year........and wants to be immediately eligible??


'Scuse me, kiddo.....that's not how life works.  
Talented people are often granted much leeway. That is unfortunately too a factor in life. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on January 12, 2019, 09:52:29 AM
this is why it's sometimes better to develop 3 stars than recruit 5 stars
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 12, 2019, 10:31:06 AM
Is it just me, or is this Fields kid just expecting the world do whatever he wants?  Goes to UGA, expects to get PT over a guy who took them to the playoff?  Doesn't' beat him out, so wants to take his ball and leave after one year........and wants to be immediately eligible??


'Scuse me, kiddo.....that's not how life works.  
Are you suggesting that you don't find his grievance to be legit? 

Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: MaximumSam on January 12, 2019, 01:52:22 PM
But that’s not how it works.
Kid goes to school, school puts name in.
So the coach will know. They might get blindsided by the request, but it doesn’t happen without a coach knowing.
A kid can go to his coach, but doesn't necessarily have to.  But that isn't my point - a coach should be aware enough of his players that he would know what their future holds at the school and why they might want to transfer.  It isn't as if transfers are bad things - lots and lots of people transfer schools that have nothing to do with sports.  It would be dumb to think a kid would make a decision at 18 that he will automatically still be happy with at age 22.  But the football coach should have a handle on these things, at least indirectly.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on January 12, 2019, 10:23:11 PM
A kid can go to his coach, but doesn't necessarily have to.  But that isn't my point - a coach should be aware enough of his players that he would know what their future holds at the school and why they might want to transfer.  It isn't as if transfers are bad things - lots and lots of people transfer schools that have nothing to do with sports.  It would be dumb to think a kid would make a decision at 18 that he will automatically still be happy with at age 22.  But the football coach should have a handle on these things, at least indirectly.
Ahh,  misunderstood what you meant 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Mdot21 on January 12, 2019, 10:35:58 PM
Are you suggesting that you don't find his grievance to be legit?
His grievance isn’t legit. At all.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 14, 2019, 08:52:08 PM
Uhh, this woman I married wasn't as freaky in the bedroom as I wanted, so I'll be taking my talents elsewhere.  Oh, and I don't want to have to pay for the divorce.  :wtf:
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on April 17, 2019, 09:53:24 PM
The NCAA is considering a new rule that would reduce the number of graduate transfers in football and basketball.

https://collegefootball.ap.org/huskermax/article/slow-flow-grad-transfers-ncaa-could-constrain-schools (https://collegefootball.ap.org/huskermax/article/slow-flow-grad-transfers-ncaa-could-constrain-schools)
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on April 17, 2019, 11:50:05 PM
The NCAA is considering a new rule that would reduce the number of graduate transfers in football and basketball.

https://collegefootball.ap.org/huskermax/article/slow-flow-grad-transfers-ncaa-could-constrain-schools (https://collegefootball.ap.org/huskermax/article/slow-flow-grad-transfers-ncaa-could-constrain-schools)
Boooo, BOOOOO
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on April 18, 2019, 12:25:06 AM
Yeah, if the goal is to limit transfers, I'd rather get rid of waivers before ending rewarding kids for graduating.  As much as I do sort of hate, from a fan standpoint, what it's done to college basketball.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 18, 2019, 07:51:38 AM
So wait.. we can have a kid who GRADUATES (the goal in college) and penalize him, but Michigan and OSU and whoever else can get waivers for free agent QB's because they didn't like their old school??
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on April 18, 2019, 09:15:38 AM
I don't have any issue with what Fields did.  I would have recommended that to him personally.  Of course, I would also have suggested to him to go somewhere else because UGA had a crowded QB room with Jacob Eason there as well.  I suppose no one was quite sure how good Fromm would be at the time.

I think it's open season now.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on April 18, 2019, 09:37:31 AM
Yeah, I think the last kids you want to penalize are the kids who actually earned* a degree.

(With appropriate exceptions made for UNC.)
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 18, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
I don't have any issue with what Fields did.  I would have recommended that to him personally.    I suppose no one was quite sure how good Fromm would be at the time.

Anyone would be good when their RBs run for 6 ypc in a run-first offense.
2017 top 3 UGA RBs' ypc:
6.0
7.9
7.6

2018 top 3 UGA RBs' ypc:
6.4
6.4
5.9

Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on April 18, 2019, 01:49:56 PM
Actually, one of the more remarkable stats of last season were those UGA RBs.  They were both averaging 6.0 ypc 4 or 5 games into the season.  That number usually goes down, both due to more carries and tougher competition, but theirs went up a half yard.  That was very surprising and impressive.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on April 18, 2019, 02:00:06 PM
Swift was playing hurt early in the year.  Holyfield was finding his oats in effect.  With the platooning, they were able to stay fresh late into the year I think.

I think Fromm is a better QB than just anyone.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on April 18, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
So wait.. we can have a kid who GRADUATES (the goal in college) and penalize him, but Michigan and OSU and whoever else can get waivers for free agent QB's because they didn't like their old school??
I'd rather limit waivers/free agents than graduates, but if you've attained your goal in college and have your degree in hand, because of a scholarship at that particular university,........... wouldn't it be nice to also finish your athletic commitment to the university that held up their end of the bargain with a "free" education (degree)?? ??
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on April 18, 2019, 02:32:57 PM
Anyone would be good when their RBs run for 6 ypc in a run-first offense.
2017 top 3 UGA RBs' ypc:
6.0
7.9
7.6

2018 top 3 UGA RBs' ypc:
6.4
6.4
5.9
Yeah, but Fromm was VERY good. He might be a little more complementary than a guy like fields, but he’s superb at that. 
The numbers weren’t as good, but Eason had Chubb and Michel behind him, and it was, well not great. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on April 18, 2019, 02:39:22 PM
I'd rather limit waivers/free agents than graduates, but if you've attained your goal in college and have your degree in hand, because of a scholarship at that particular university,........... wouldn't it be nice to also finish your athletic commitment to the university that held up their end of the bargain with a "free" education (degree)?? ??
It would be nice. 
But it would be also nice to let principal agents do what they want and don’t force them to “be nice.” If the school/program offers reasons to stay, a kid will stay.
But weirdly, a lot of them don’t seem to. Or other places offer new and different  experiences. 
Now I’ll be interested if an unintended consequence is just more transfers. 
If I’m a second-year player not feeling settled in my situation now, I can gun it academically and possibly get my degree in time for a fresh start, and perhaps that extra two years or one year let me find my way/plac on my current team. But this just makes it more likely kids will try to look ahead too far and make their jumps. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 18, 2019, 03:26:43 PM
I have no problem with graduate transfers. The school fulfilled its obligation to graduate the player. The player fulfilled his obligation to play for the school for 3-4 years and graduate.


As an undergrad at UW, I looked at going elsewhere for grad school. Not because I didn't like UW. It was because I thought it would be best for me to gain an additional perspective in my education and life. Anyway, I didn't go because I chose to enter the workforce. Not the NFL, however.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 01, 2019, 08:16:48 PM
So INCOMING FR QB Jalon Jones entered the transfer portal (I hope he bought it dinner first) from Florida.


This has gone the full retard.  Jones ended spring practice behind the same 3 QBs that were on the roster when he signed earlier this year. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on May 02, 2019, 01:34:50 PM
A. Phrasing maybe

B. Looks like the Florida kid had himself an issue of sorts with a lady. Guessing that had a little something to do with it.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 02, 2019, 01:45:14 PM
Yeah, he may not be pre-law, but you can't just transfer away from sexual assault....
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on May 09, 2019, 01:20:02 PM
Whole situation getting messier

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/in-latest-blow-to-florida-football-program-5-star-db-chris-steele-opts-to-transfer-170745599.html (https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/in-latest-blow-to-florida-football-program-5-star-db-chris-steele-opts-to-transfer-170745599.html)
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 09, 2019, 01:25:34 PM
Charges not even being pressed and we lose a 5* CB?  FML
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: CWSooner on May 09, 2019, 03:17:50 PM
Whole situation getting messier

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/in-latest-blow-to-florida-football-program-5-star-db-chris-steele-opts-to-transfer-170745599.html (https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/in-latest-blow-to-florida-football-program-5-star-db-chris-steele-opts-to-transfer-170745599.html)
Steele is a guy whom OU tried to recruit, and the story you linked is the story I saw on an OU message board earlier today.
I wonder if he plans to sit out a year or if he'll go the JC route.
Of course, he could decide to stay at Florida.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: MaximumSam on May 09, 2019, 07:00:48 PM
I guess if your a coach and a player says their roommate is a creeper, you should probably look into it
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on May 10, 2019, 08:36:32 PM
Fred Hoiberg and Nebraska basketball struck gold on the transfer market once again on Friday, as the Huskers landed a commitment from Nevada and Pitt transfer Shamiel Stevenson.

The 6-foot-6, 230-pound Stevenson was a member of the class of 2017, and initially chose Pitt, where he averaged 8.5 points and 4.4 rebounds per game as a freshman. He shot 50.5 percent from the field, including 37.5 percent from 3-point range.

As a sophomore, Stevenson didn’t appear to mesh with new Pitt head coach Jeff Capel, and appeared in just four games, earning 32 total minutes. He averaged 3.8 points last year before announcing his intention to transfer from Pitt. Three days later, he signed with Nevada. He never appeared in a game for Nevada, and wouldn’t have been eligible until the second semester this coming season. Stevenson put his name in the NCAA transfer portal on April 19 after then-Nevada coach Eric Musselman took the head coaching job at Arkansas.


A native of Toronto, Stevenson played his high school ball at Hillcrest Prep in Phoenix. Coming out of high school, Stevenson was a three-star prospect with an overall rating of 0.8681 according to the industry-generated 247Sports Composite.

Nebraska now has three open scholarships for the 2019-20 season.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mcwterps1 on May 15, 2019, 05:49:16 PM
Shaq Smith has finally entered.

Graduated with 2 years left. Immediately eligible. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on May 16, 2019, 09:52:22 AM
the Huskers are in need of an ILB

not near his home, but an opportunity to start immediately 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mcwterps1 on May 16, 2019, 07:56:29 PM
the Huskers are in need of an ILB

not near his home, but an opportunity to start immediately
He's from Maryland, a position of need, and isn't taking calls. 

Players seem to think he's Maryland bound, and I heard this when Locksley was hired. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on May 18, 2019, 08:57:36 AM
Although he doesn’t necessarily think about it in these terms, Marquel Dismuke’s story at Nebraska runs contrary to the transfer culture in college athletics.

Last year, as more than 1,500 Division I college football players entered the transfer portal, nobody would’ve been surprised if Dismuke had jumped into the mix.

A junior safety, Dismuke has started only one game as a Husker. But he’s still in the program in large part because his mother, Nicole Samuel, strongly encouraged him to “stick with the script.”


He’s played for two different head coaches, three different defensive coordinators and four different position coaches.

But he’s stayed with the script.


The 6-foot-2, 200-pound Dismuke was part of the Calabasas (California) High School crew that was all the rage at Nebraska for part of the Mike Riley era. But Dismuke, a four-star recruit in the class of 2016, is the only one left in Lincoln. Two Calabasas graduates in NU’s class of 2017 — Tristan Gebbia and Keyshawn Johnson Jr. — have moved on.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: CWSooner on May 18, 2019, 10:43:30 AM
That's a good story, Fearless.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 18, 2019, 10:46:55 AM
I heard on the radio that there are more players in the portal than available spots, with the 25 signee limitations. 

Crazy if true. Sorta like having more underclassmen declare for the draft than there are draft picks. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on May 18, 2019, 10:50:19 AM
hopefully this transfer crap will die out after a few seasons of futility
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on May 19, 2019, 10:56:26 AM
Ehhh, the transfer thing won't die down because it's just a symptom of something that's always happened to a degree. 

Since you went to 85 scholarships, attrition was a natural outcome. Coaches want better players when they misevaluate or a guy doesn't develop. Kids get homesick or get tired of not playing. The differences historically were twofold, as I see it. First, kids had a less clear sense of where they could go. You couldn't just pull up all the rosters and dig through depth charts at a whim. And second, we didn't know about it as much. We didn't get excited about the kids as high school juniors and when they dropped off the roster, it came up as a note at the bottom of a newspaper story, not as a headline "Former four-star leaving."

Issues of the information age.  

The thing about more people in the portal than spots is also a natural outgrowth. People have been dropping to the FCS for eons. They in fact make that transfer easier in essence to incentivize it. That group just happens to also count for the portal. 

Lastly, the kid at Nebraska. I think that's great. But not because he stands against the trend. Because he made a choice he's confident in. As much as we focus on and bemoan transfers, there's plenty of program guys all over. Transferring is hard socially, you lose friends and have to reacclimate. I wouldn't push a guy to do it, but I wouldn't stigmatize it either. Though people don't quite have enough faith in randomness. (Can he grad transfer next year?)

Somewhere there was a super interesting blog from a former Texas center. He talked about explaining the perks of redshirting to a top-50 recruit they added who ended up a high draft pick. And top recruit said, "It sounds like you don't like playing football" in reaction, "I came here to play football." And the gap there mentally, on both sides, being able to enjoy being part of it vs the burning desire to play this game that defined your life always stuck with me. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on May 20, 2019, 08:11:51 PM

In less than a year, the NCAA’s transfer portal is already beginning to turn against the student-athletes it was supposed to help.

As The Athletic reported Thursday, of the 450 Power Five conference football prospects who have entered the portal, only 210 have committed to other schools. That leaves more than half without a new home. Some will certainly head to junior colleges. Others may dip down to the FCS level.

Either way, players are finding this newfound freedom — simply notifying your current school of your intention to transfer clears you to go anywhere — isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. Adulthood is like that.

On the Nebraska front, 12 players have entered the portal, according to the 247Sports database. This includes walk-on quarterback Andrew Bunch, who was welcomed back when he decided to stay.

Of the remaining 11, six have yet to find new schools: Guy Thomas, Quayshon Alexander, Breon Dixon, Justin McGriff, Caleb Lightbourn and walk-on tight end Branden Hohenstein. Excluding the three ex-Huskers who transferred to Oregon State before the portal officially started — Avery Roberts, Tristan Gebbia and Tyjon Lindsey — only Greg Bell (San Diego State) and Cam’ron Jones (SMU) have found new schools. Neither went to Power Five programs, though Thomas recently reported an offer to Colorado.


https://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/mckewon-football-players-get-harsh-lesson-on-ncaa-transfer-portal/article_a1bd1cff-3ffd-507b-a48e-7dda909141d0.html (https://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/mckewon-football-players-get-harsh-lesson-on-ncaa-transfer-portal/article_a1bd1cff-3ffd-507b-a48e-7dda909141d0.html)

Perhaps the reality of the portal will help players understand the grass isn’t always greener elsewhere, too. That may help even more.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: CWSooner on May 20, 2019, 10:42:42 PM

Quote
Adulthood is like that.
Yep.  With adulthood come responsibilities and consequences for one's choices.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Anonymous Coward on May 21, 2019, 01:46:26 AM
Don't the vast majority of kids who enter the portal without finding a new destination just ... stay? I'm pretty sure there aren't rules against staying in that case. Entering the portal doesn't void one's LOI. And if they signed 4-year contracts, they can't be booted. 

In that sense, entering the portal isn't any different than applying for a new job while already employed. Many people do that without any plan to leave unless they get an unexpectedly big bite. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on May 21, 2019, 07:56:07 AM
Don't the vast majority of kids who enter the portal without finding a new destination just ... stay? I'm pretty sure there aren't rules against staying in that case. Entering the portal doesn't void one's LOI. And if they signed 4-year contracts, they can't be booted.

In that sense, entering the portal isn't any different than applying for a new job while already employed. Many people do that without any plan to leave unless they get an unexpectedly big bite.
Correct, but in those cases the employee doesn't have to publicly post their openness to a forum that their own employer also is a member to.

They can return, but you have to wonder about the ramifications within the program, particularly considering to even be looking, the kid likely wasn't exceedingly happy with his role prior.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 21, 2019, 08:13:14 AM
On returning or not.. that is completely up to the player and coaches. 99 times out of 100, the player is gone.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Anonymous Coward on May 21, 2019, 10:23:23 AM
On returning or not.. that is completely up to the player and coaches. 99 times out of 100, the player is gone.
It seems neither of us are reporting the actual numbers. I do doubt the rate of "portal returnees" is literally 1%.

For PSU (albeit still without firm numbers), of the 15-20 kids who entered the portal this year, once you subtract potential grad transfers, my recollection is that maybe only one did not move on to a new school. That was Lamont Wade. And he was welcomed back with open arms.

Now surely the rate of portal returnees isn't 100%, either. But a realistic guess would place it between 30% and 70%.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Anonymous Coward on May 21, 2019, 10:45:03 AM
Correct, but in those cases the employee doesn't have to publicly post their openness to a forum that their own employer also is a member to.

They can return, but you have to wonder about the ramifications within the program, particularly considering to even be looking, the kid likely wasn't exceedingly happy with his role prior.
I completely agree. It's complicated and uncomfortable. And may unglue some teams. Of course, the previous system where all the power resided with coaches was complicated and uncomfortable, too. But apologists didn't notice or mind for sake of "tradition" because they liked the feel of amateurism.

I don't like the new system. It is very clumsy. But I equally dislike the habits of NCAA amateurism apologists that contributed to this sort of breaking point in 2019. The transfer portal is the inevitable consequence of decades of resisting that NCAA players receive compensation. Because that led to the NCAA standing on its last leg in court, hellbent on preventing compensation and newly open to fixing other criticisms that opponent lawyers (and judges in summation) have levied against them.

Many of those criticisms relate to the power asymmetries involved in player contracts. And in the wake of O'Bannon et al. and newly proposed California/federal legislation, the NCAA is suddenly interested in fixing those criticisms. Namely: How their coaches can safely shop around and leave without consequence but the players previously couldn't safely shop around and how non-grad transfers had to (always) sit out a year. Etc.

Anyway, we can call the transfer portal inelegant and problematic. And I have. Nevertheless, although there's a chance the current system has solved no problems in net (that it created as many new problems as it solved) ...

(1) it still has a couple inches more justice
(2) and all of this is the NCAA's (and - to an extent - all amateurism apologists') own fault
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on May 21, 2019, 12:04:40 PM
Don't the vast majority of kids who enter the portal without finding a new destination just ... stay? I'm pretty sure there aren't rules against staying in that case. Entering the portal doesn't void one's LOI. And if they signed 4-year contracts, they can't be booted.

In that sense, entering the portal isn't any different than applying for a new job while already employed. Many people do that without any plan to leave unless they get an unexpectedly big bite.
Most don’t but that’s becuase most are leaving for a reason.

Kids have fallen off the edge of rosters since forever. We make a bigger deal about it now, but it’s the nature of things that some kids aren’t up for it, or aren’t happy being the fourth tackle or whatnot.

Im sure there are more transfers than in the past. But we know about many more than in the past. I’d bet the top reason kids leave is simply that the coach is close to done with them. Or the coach honestly says, you’re likely not going to play much beyond specials and they’ll listen.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: MaximumSam on May 21, 2019, 12:14:14 PM
People transfer colleges all the time for all sorts of reasons.  If another school has a better fit of an educational program I wouldn't tell a kid to stay at the inferior program out of school loyalty.  Seems dumb to tell them that for athletic programs.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on May 21, 2019, 12:29:15 PM
all this portal does is put the athlete's names out in the open available to the press & public for scrutiny by the fans

the coaches always found out in the past because they had to grant the scholarship release

this does allow other programs to reach out to athletes to see if they may be interested and a fit for that program w/o contacting the current coach - this simply avoids a few phone calls or emails
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on May 21, 2019, 12:34:16 PM
Yep.  With adulthood come responsibilities and consequences for one's choices.

So we gotta put four-year scholarships in place?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on May 21, 2019, 12:49:41 PM
all this portal does is put the athlete's names out in the open available to the press & public for scrutiny by the fans

the coaches always found out in the past because they had to grant the scholarship release

this does allow other programs to reach out to athletes to see if they may be interested and a fit for that program w/o contacting the current coach - this simply avoids a few phone calls or emails
Sort of.

The portal isn’t open to the public. But the NCAA leaks like a sieve.

It’s useful becuase coaches were leveraging their power, holding kids hostage for whatever damn reason, which was trash. It’s also useful becuase any school can find the kid rather than having to have the kid reach out or word of mouth. That freedom of moment is a good thing.

It’s also worth noting, lots of kids that just would’ve left get tagged as “in the transfer portal.”
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Anonymous Coward on May 21, 2019, 02:01:56 PM
all this portal does is put the athlete's names out in the open available to the press & public for scrutiny by the fans

the coaches always found out in the past because they had to grant the scholarship release

this does allow other programs to reach out to athletes to see if they may be interested and a fit for that program w/o contacting the current coach - this simply avoids a few phone calls or emails
That's all true regarding the transparency, but it's not everything. This also allows players to save a place with their current team while shopping for a new team simultaneously. That flexibility/safety (power shift) for players is just as new as the transparency.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Anonymous Coward on May 21, 2019, 02:03:43 PM
So we gotta put four-year scholarships in place?
I think most P5 schools already have. My recollection is that this includes 13 of 14 Big Ten schools.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Entropy on May 21, 2019, 02:04:40 PM
going down to FCS may not be a bad idea for some kids...
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Anonymous Coward on May 21, 2019, 02:20:54 PM
Most don’t but that’s becuase most are leaving for a reason.
No doubt. Though to be clear, I was talking about the ones who enter the portal only to genuinely decide they want to stay. More in the vein of Lamont Wade. Though he's a narrow type (obvious talent/starter) and I think this group is broader than his type (including young guys, junior back-ups, any-age role players, and anyone with eligibility and a 4-year contract who's genuinely open to staying).

The ones I'm looking to exclude from this stat (which we could clumsily name "rate of returning from the portal if no one wants you") are

a) non-P5 players,
b) grad transfers, and
c) the classic examples of a kid being squeezed out

Excluding non-P5's, because outside the P5 4-year contracts are rare. Excluding grad transfer attempts and squeeze-outs because those kids may know they can't stay (or would rather leave the sport than stay) before they even enter the portal.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on May 21, 2019, 02:34:12 PM
I think most P5 schools already have. My recollection is that this includes 13 of 14 Big Ten schools.
I more meant ones that a staff can’t wriggle out of. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on May 21, 2019, 02:36:50 PM
No doubt. Though to be clear, I was talking about the ones who enter the portal only to genuinely decide they want to stay. More in the vein of Lamont Wade. Though he's a narrow type (obvious talent/starter) and I think this group is broader than his type (including young guys, junior back-ups, any-age role players, and anyone with eligibility and a 4-year contract who's genuinely open to staying).

The ones I'm looking to exclude from this stat (which we could clumsily name "rate of returning from the portal if no one wants you") are

a) non-P5 players,
b) grad transfers, and
c) the classic examples of a kid being squeezed out

Excluding non-P5's, because outside the P5 4-year contracts are rare. Excluding grad transfer attempts and squeeze-outs because those kids may know they can't stay (or would rather leave the sport than stay) before they even enter the portal.
In the case of kids who are welcomed back fully, I’m guessing most stay, especially not counting grad transfers.

But they are likely a small group.

Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Anonymous Coward on May 21, 2019, 02:40:50 PM
I more meant ones that a staff can’t wriggle out of.
My understanding is that if all players had the requisite perseverance (at least a willingness to secure legal counsel and/or take media interviews to discuss what coach said), no coaches would be able to wriggle out of the current contracts (or want to try). This is betting those contracts are already good enough. But the power and knowledge asymmetries in these relationships probably have players just wanting to go with the flow and  get these uncomfortable situations over with.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Anonymous Coward on May 21, 2019, 02:45:24 PM
In the case of kids who are welcomed back fully, I’m guessing most stay, especially not counting grad transfers.

But they are likely a small group.


That's my thought too. My other thought is that even if they are a small group this is the only group relevant to answering questions about whether entering the transfer portal is so poisonous to a team that a coach and player can't go on together. Not that these players' return answers that question unequivocally (our info about them isn't personal enough for that) but because that analysis can't begin until you find the sample set that has all of these:

- enters portal/isn't wanted by any new school deemed good enough
- wants to continue with old school
- old coach wants the same
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on May 21, 2019, 04:05:03 PM
My understanding is that if all players had the requisite perseverance (at least a willingness to secure legal counsel and/or take media interviews to discuss what coach said), no coaches would be able to wriggle out of the current contracts (or want to try). This is betting those contracts are already good enough. But the power and knowledge asymmetries in these relationships probably have players just wanting to go with the flow and  get these uncomfortable situations over with.
This is one of those where the phrasing gets lost in multiquote.

It started with the idea thay adult adult choices would have consequences. A real four-year deal means there are higher consequences for a bust.

But to a degree, we really want mulligans. A coach can make life unpleasant enough for a kid to leave, or just say the kid isn’t wanted. The way the system works is probably fine, but it doesn’t meet the adult decision-consequence threashold.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on June 01, 2019, 02:26:03 PM
WR Bru McCoy, #9 overall recruit by 247 in 2019, appears to now be transferring back to USC, after already transferring from USC to Texas.

He should be at Prom right now, instead he has already transferred twice.

This seems sustainable.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on June 01, 2019, 05:51:10 PM
WR Bru McCoy, #9 overall recruit by 247 in 2019, appears to now be transferring back to USC, after already transferring from USC to Texas.

He should be at Prom right now, instead he has already transferred twice.

This seems sustainable.
Does he take two transfer years? (Kid seems like an odd duck)
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 04, 2019, 07:15:38 PM
Redshirt freshman safety CJ Smith has entered his name in the transfer portal, Husker247 confirmed through an NU football spokesman.

Smith joins Cam'Ron Jones as young defensive backs from the Nebraska 2018 recruiting class who have decided to move on from Nebraska after the spring. The 6-foot-2, 205-pound Smith actually worked his way onto the field last fall, playing on special teams against Purdue and Northwestern before having to be carted off the field after covering a kick against the Wildcats.

It was a severe knee injury that ended his season and also kept him out of action this spring. Due to playing less than four games, Smith was able to use his redshirt last season.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on June 08, 2019, 08:22:47 AM
So, Luke Ford transferred from UGA to UI, he's from IL, and is denied eligibility.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/bulldog-luke-ford-appeal-for-immediate-eligibility-denied-ncaa/fgS9KGk91rc2hcD8ymfzpI/ (https://www.ajc.com/sports/bulldog-luke-ford-appeal-for-immediate-eligibility-denied-ncaa/fgS9KGk91rc2hcD8ymfzpI/)

Ford, represented by Thomas Mars, had said the primary reason for his transfer was to be closer to an ailing grandfather.
Mars, who gained notoriety for representing the successful transfer of Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields -- who was granted immediate eligibility after leaving UGA -- said the Ford family will be all right.
"Luke and his family are disappointed, of course," Mars told ESPN.com. "But they're the kind of people who have the unusual ability to maintain a very positive attitude -- even in the face of disappointment. As Luke just said to me in a very grateful way, 'Sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't.’ "
Many expected Mars to be able to swing the case and the NCAA ruling in Ford's favor.


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Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on June 08, 2019, 08:23:48 AM
This thing is going to blow up on them i think.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 08, 2019, 08:27:27 AM
should have stayed closer to home in the first place

sitting out one season isn't horrible

will give the kid more time to spend with Gramps
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: mcwterps1 on June 08, 2019, 08:31:25 AM
He's from Maryland, a position of need, and isn't taking calls.

Players seem to think he's Maryland bound, and I heard this when Locksley was hired.
Done deal. He's A Terp and immediately eligible. 

Big pick up, again. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on June 08, 2019, 08:49:53 AM
It's fine of course, he'll survive, but he had a clear hardship reason to move, and was denied eligibility, while others with scant reason and the same lawyer were granted eligibility.  The inconsistency is going to blow this thing up.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 08, 2019, 09:05:23 AM
perhaps the hardship wasn't as clear to the folks making the determination?

I have no idear, but hopefully someone looked into this closely
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on June 08, 2019, 01:56:02 PM
At least on the surface, Ford's hardship is more obvious than was Fields' hardship of not getting enough PT.  They had the same lawyer.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Mdot21 on June 08, 2019, 03:20:15 PM
At least on the surface, Ford's hardship is more obvious than was Fields' hardship of not getting enough PT.  They had the same lawyer.
Ford should’ve claimed someone at Georgia called him a honky and he felt unsafe at Georgia now.

Or that he’s transgender and a she now and someone made fun of her true self. 

Transfer waiver would’ve been a done deal.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 08, 2019, 11:13:55 PM
yup, apparently didn't try too hard
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on June 09, 2019, 06:09:50 AM
As noted, Fields' sister is still at UGA running track.

Personally, I think a player who wants to transfer back home should be allowed to do it without sitting.  Same with Eason.  The bizarre nature of their decisions is going to bite them eventually.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on June 09, 2019, 08:38:37 AM
As noted, Fields' sister is still at UGA running track.

Personally, I think a player who wants to transfer back home should be allowed to do it without sitting.  Same with Eason.  The bizarre nature of their decisions is going to bite them eventually.
How do you think it will bite them? 

I kind of imagine it just evolves into a looser and looser system, which considering the ease of movement for the most important pieces, ehh, it happens. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on June 09, 2019, 09:06:27 AM
Someone might tabulate who gets to play next year by race.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 09, 2019, 09:14:41 AM
that would cause a stir
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 09, 2019, 01:29:28 PM
If Ford wanted to play right away, he should have transferred to OSU or Michigan.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Entropy on June 10, 2019, 10:09:26 AM
Sad, but true
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Mdot21 on June 10, 2019, 11:40:58 AM
If Ford wanted to play right away, he should have transferred to OSU or Michigan.
I think ultimately the NCAA didn't want to touch the Fields case because of race, and believe it or not but Patterson actually had a legitimate argument. The NCAA didn't just approve his waiver either. Every kid that transferred from Ole Miss got the waiver. There was a bunch of them, not just Patterson.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 10, 2019, 01:02:08 PM
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Title: Re: Transfer Portal
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Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on June 10, 2019, 01:15:36 PM
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I sometimes think this comparison is a bit trite, given that it’s obviously different, money changes hands, et al.

But we know coaching changes are much more jarring than player departures. They mess with bowls, turn a lot of guys out of programs, force all sorts of resets. And plenty of coaches say the fans turn out for the school not the players (half accurate), but There’s a certain shamefulness implied with the transience.

I think things will get a good bit more fluid. Wonder how far it goes. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 10, 2019, 01:26:56 PM
the NCAA doesn't require coaches to sit out a year because the member institutions do not want it.

very simple

obviously, the member institutions want to be able to force players to sit a year in most cases
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Hawkinole on June 11, 2019, 01:19:10 AM
Oliver Martin has landed with the Hawkeyes. Iowa is a 3-star school, and just landed a 4-star player. Every little bit helps.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on June 11, 2019, 08:17:07 AM
Oliver Martin has landed with the Hawkeyes. Iowa is a 3-star school, and just landed a 4-star player. Every little bit helps.
I saw an Iowa blog say that Iowa hasn't had a WR catch a pass in the NFL since Kevin Kasper, who played for Ferentz, but was a walk on recruit under Hayden Fry.  I know nobody is confusing Iowa for WR U, but I found that stat shocking.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Hawkinole on June 11, 2019, 10:50:17 AM
I saw an Iowa blog say that Iowa hasn't had a WR catch a pass in the NFL since Kevin Kasper, who played for Ferentz, but was a walk on recruit under Hayden Fry.  I know nobody is confusing Iowa for WR U, but I found that stat shocking.
I saw that too. Iowa has had team record setting receivers during the Ferentz era such as Darrell Johnson-Koulianos (sp?), and Marvin McNutt, that never made it in the NFL.

In 2018, Noah Fant with TE size but not a quintessential TE blocker, had WR speed, was sometimes split out wide. We will see how he is used in the NFL.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 11, 2019, 05:57:47 PM
Tim Dwight caught a few
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 11, 2019, 05:58:17 PM
Former Rutgers tight end Travis Vokolek announced his decision to transfer to Nebraska on Tuesday via Twitter. The tight end chose the Huskers over Iowa and Kansas State. Vokolek had visited all three schools in the spring.

The Huskers were the final visit for Vokolek, stopping in the final week of May. The tight end was expected to have a quick decision shortly thereafter, but instead it took him nearly two weeks longer to decide between the three midwest schools.

He'd have two seasons of eligibility after sitting out one year. There is a possibility Vokolek could be a "blueshirt" addition, since his visit to Nebraska wasn't an official one, and he didn't have a recruitment triggered by the Huskers. In such a case, a player could end up receiving a scholarship after enrolling in classes and it counting toward the 2020 class. That possibility in this case, would keep open space for another possible transfer addition yet in the 2019 cycle.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on June 11, 2019, 06:24:40 PM
Tim Dwight caught a few
Yeah, but he played at Iowa prior to Kasper
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 11, 2019, 10:56:54 PM
geez, I'm getting old
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 13, 2019, 04:34:42 PM
Another former Husker player is headed to Oregon State.

Former Nebraska punter Caleb Lightbourn announced on social media on Thursday that he was transferring to the Pac-12 school, joining quarterback Tristan Gebbia, wide receiver Tyjon Lindsey and linebacker Avery Roberts, who have all made similar journeys west.

Lightbourn announced he would transfer from Nebraska shortly after the end of spring practice after it was clear that he was down the depth chart heading into his final season in Lincoln.


The senior, who was on scholarship, lost the starting role as the punter and kickoff man in the middle of last season, as he struggled with some of his directional kicking.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 17, 2019, 09:33:54 PM
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Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on June 18, 2019, 02:07:59 PM
Hunter Rison in the transfer portal.  I don't see things ending particularly well for him.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: bayareabadger on June 18, 2019, 05:50:46 PM
Hunter Rison in the transfer portal.  I don't see things ending particularly well for him.
/Bangs same ole drum

This is a case where the “portal” is the label that hits every kid that gets tossed from a team. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on June 18, 2019, 10:13:34 PM
/Bangs same ole drum

This is a case where the “portal” is the label that hits every kid that gets tossed from a team.
Nuh uh.  He said it was "mutual"
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on June 18, 2019, 10:21:46 PM
Brandon Peters lands at Illinois
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on June 26, 2019, 10:14:56 AM
From Dan Wolken

The NCAA Division I council is expected to approve a package of new guidelines that could make it more difficult for college football and basketball players who transfer to receive immediate eligibility via waivers, according to a document obtained by USA TODAY Sports.

The council is scheduled to meet Wednesday in Indianapolis to review the updated guidelines and directives, which in many cases appear to specify and narrow the circumstances in which athletes should be given waivers and raise the documentation requirements to obtain them. Compliance staffs at Division I schools were made aware of the proposals last week.

The new guidelines are not rules but essentially a set of directions for the Committee on Legislative Relief, which decides whether or not to grant the waivers. They are thought to be in response to a significant increase in the number of waiver requests being submitted to the NCAA this summer and growing frustration among some schools and fans about decisions that appear to be inconsistent in cases that seem to be similar.

In 2018, the NCAA implemented a new policy that would allow waivers to be granted on a case-by-case basis by the committee if the athlete could demonstrate “documented mitigating circumstances outside of the student-athlete’s control and directly impacts the health, safety or well-being of the student-athlete.” 

That change helped clear several high-profile football players to play immediately last season including quarterback Shea Patterson, who transferred to Michigan in the wake of the NCAA issuing significant penalties at Ole Miss.

The updated language of that same guideline is less broad, requiring “documented extenuating, extraordinary and mitigating circumstances outside of the student-athlete’s control that directly impacts the health, safety or well-being of the student-athlete.”

The addition of those two words — extenuating and extraordinary — as well as other language throughout the proposal, appears to send the message that the NCAA wants to tighten up on the requirements for waivers.

“Across the board, the proposed new guidelines raise the bar for schools seeking a waiver on behalf of a student-athlete,” said attorney Tom Mars, who has represented a number of high-profile athletes in waiver cases over the last year. “Given the dramatic increase in the number of waivers being sought for the 2019-20 season, raising the bar strikes me as a sensible short-term reaction by the Legislative Council.”

Among the other key changes:

In cases where an athlete was run off by a coach or essentially had their scholarship pulled for non-disciplinary reasons, the NCAA will require a written statement from the athletics director at the previous school stating whether the athlete would not have had an opportunity to return to the team. The committee is being instructed to deny cases where the athlete can’t document that they’ve been run off. 

The previous guidelines allowed waivers to be granted for “egregious behavior by a staff member or student at the previous institution” as long as the previous school did not oppose the waiver, giving the committee a fairly broad window to view those claims. The updated version says waivers should be granted for documented cases where the athlete was a victim of “physical assault or abuse, sexually inappropriate behavior, racial abuse, religious discrimination, questioning of sexuality by a staff member or student at the previous institution” though the definition isn’t limited to those areas.

In cases where athletes transfer within 100-mile radius of their to home due to injury or illness to an immediate family member or because of a pregnancy, the NCAA’s proposal requires more paperwork from both schools, including “a treatment plan detailing the student-athlete’s caregiving responsibilities.”

Though it’s unclear whether these guidelines will discourage schools from attempting to obtain waivers, they appear to be a patchwork attempt at addressing the narrative that the NCAA is moving toward free agency in the transfer market. These waivers, along with the introduction last fall of the so-called “transfer portal” that makes it easier for athletes to initiate the transfer process, have put the entire issue at the forefront of debate within the NCAA.

The numbers don't necessarily indicate that much has changed in terms of how the waivers are adjudicated. Last month, the Associated Press reported that the committee for legislative relief had approved 68% of waiver requests for football, which was actually a two-percentage point decrease compared to the previous four years. Overall requests across all sports increased to more than 250 in 2018-19 from more than 150 the previous year, according to AP.

A softening of the rules has certainly raised concerns about consistency and started a conversation about whether the entire process should be overhauled.

While many athletes such as high-profile quarterbacks Justin Fields (Georgia to Ohio State) and Tate Martell (Ohio State to Miami) have been granted waivers for reasons that publicly appear to be ambiguous, social media has fueled frustration among school officials and fan bases in cases like tight end Luke Ford (Georgia to Illinois) and offensive lineman Brock Hoffman (Coastal Carolina to Virginia Tech) where waivers have been denied.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on June 26, 2019, 10:29:13 AM
Judgments will be criticized if the criteria are not clear and concise and unequivocal.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: ELA on June 26, 2019, 10:30:13 AM
Judgments will be criticized if the criteria are not clear and concise and unequivocal.
Yup.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 26, 2019, 01:55:24 PM
Incoming 2019 UW freshman OLB Skyler Myers has entered the portal. I think he's been on campus for about 17 minutes.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 26, 2019, 02:06:28 PM
bad first impression?
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on June 26, 2019, 02:08:01 PM
Georgia has a player who just committed for the 2022 class and just entered the portal.

It's a kind of time portal thingee.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on June 26, 2019, 02:14:23 PM
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/ncaa-to-change-transfer-guidelines-immediate-eligibility-waivers/lufq9s2ejxy31ujfzz4r26xzy (https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/ncaa-to-change-transfer-guidelines-immediate-eligibility-waivers/lufq9s2ejxy31ujfzz4r26xzy)
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 26, 2019, 02:48:06 PM
bad first impression?
I dunno. He visited and committed in November last year. Maybe it's too hot this week? Or maybe he just wants to do something else entirely. 
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on June 26, 2019, 03:04:00 PM
https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/NCAA-transfer-waiver-portal-guidelines-reaction-Justin-Fields-Tate-Martell-133202568/#133202568_3 (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/NCAA-transfer-waiver-portal-guidelines-reaction-Justin-Fields-Tate-Martell-133202568/#133202568_3)

Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on July 21, 2019, 10:31:59 PM
Outside linebacker Guy Thomas has announced his intention to join the Buffaloes in January, after playing his redshirt sophomore season at Coahoma Community College in Mississippi.

Originally a highly regarded prospect out of Miami powerhouse Booker T. Washington, Thomas signed with Nebraska in 2017 and he spent a year-and-a-half in Lincoln before deciding he wanted a change of scenery.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2019, 04:06:01 PM
A Husker redshirt freshman wide receiver is exploring his options elsewhere.

An NU football spokesman confirmed to Husker247 that Miles Jones has informed Nebraska coaches of his intention to put his name in the transfer portal. His name already was showing up in the portal as of early Monday afternoon, as viewed by 247Sports.

Out of Miramar, Florida, the 5-foot-8, 175-pound Jones has played in four games this 2019 season, but has not registered on the stat sheet. A year ago he played in one game against Bethune-Cookman, in which he had one carry for five yards and one catch for 21.
Title: Re: Transfer Portal
Post by: Cincydawg on October 29, 2019, 08:56:48 AM
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ncaa-poised-move-toward-allowing-155603436.html?ncid=facebook_yfsocialfa_wje3x23a50w&utm_content=buffer2af00&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=yahoofinance&fbclid=IwAR0BWruv8JJ-c5_p3Q1VGjjbKEsBYVEvK0wRxB9uBbKWmmhkz-C_TrfpfhE (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ncaa-poised-move-toward-allowing-155603436.html?ncid=facebook_yfsocialfa_wje3x23a50w&utm_content=buffer2af00&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=yahoofinance&fbclid=IwAR0BWruv8JJ-c5_p3Q1VGjjbKEsBYVEvK0wRxB9uBbKWmmhkz-C_TrfpfhE)