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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2018, 05:55:00 PM »
They might be hesitant to do a 2-for-1 with us because crowd-wise, it would wind up being 3 home games for the Gators.



Looking back historically, Florida would routinely play teams in Tampa and Orlando.  
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2018, 06:01:41 PM »
It's still chicken shit. 

The Bearcats once agreed to four games in Columbus in exchange for one game in Cincinnati. 

Damn near knocked off the 02 National Championship team in the Bengals stadium too. 
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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2018, 06:10:31 PM »
btw, USF had no trouble scheduling a 2-for-1 with Florida 
2021 - Tampa
2022 - Gainesville
2025 - Gainesville

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2018, 06:14:13 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on December 12, 2018, 02:36:39 PM
Assuming that we had adopted an 8-team playoff with auto-bids for the five P5 Champions and the highest ranked G5 Champion, here are the quarter-final match-ups that would have occurred from 2014-2018:
2014:
  • #1 SEC Champion Alabama vs #20 MWC Champion Boise State
  • #2 PAC Champion Oregon vs #7 MissSt
  • #3 ACC Champion Florida State vs #6 TCU
  • #4 B1G Champion Ohio State vs B12 Champion Baylor
  • Best teams left out is #8 Michigan State (10-2)
2015:
  • #1 ACC Champion Clemson vs #18 AAC Champion Houston
  • #2 SEC Champion Alabama vs #7 Ohio State
  • #3 B1G Champion Michigan State vs #6 PAC Champion Stanford
  • #4 B12 Champion Oklahoma vs #5 Iowa
  • Best team left out is #8 Notre Dame (10-2)
2016:
  • #1 SEC Champion Alabama vs #15 MAC Champion Western Michigan
  • #2 ACC Champion Clemson vs #7 B12 Champion Oklahoma
  • #3 Ohio State vs #6 Michigan
  • #4 PAC Champion Washington vs #5 B1G Champion PSU
  • Best team left out is #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
2017:
  • #1 ACC Champion Clemson vs #12 AAC Champion UCF
  • #2 B12 Champion Oklahoma vs #8 PAC Champion USC
  • #3 SEC Champion Georgia vs #6 Wisconsin
  • #4 Alabama vs #5 B1G Champion Ohio State
  • Best team left out is #7 Auburn (10-3)
2018:
  • #1 SEC Champion Alabama vs #9 PAC Champion Washington
  • #2 ACC Champion Clemson vs #8 AAC Champion UCF
  • #3 Notre Dame vs #6 B1G Champion Ohio State
  • #4 B12 Champion Oklahoma vs #5 Georgia
  • Best teams left out is #7 Michigan (10-2)

This seems much better to me than the 4 team CFP.  Every team with a potential gripe gets in.  8 seems like the perfect number to me.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2018, 07:01:20 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 13, 2018, 06:10:31 PM
btw, USF had no trouble scheduling a 2-for-1 with Florida
2021 - Tampa
2022 - Gainesville
2025 - Gainesville


well, let's hope they win 2 of 3
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2018, 07:03:04 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 13, 2018, 06:01:41 PM
It's still chicken shit.

The Bearcats once agreed to four games in Columbus in exchange for one game in Cincinnati.
I wouldn't call it chicken shit, but if you're pleading at the top of your lungs for respect......... that's your opportunity
it would be chicken shit if the Gators turned it down
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #34 on: December 13, 2018, 08:28:38 PM »
Quote from: LittlePig on December 13, 2018, 06:14:13 PM
This seems much better to me than the 4 team CFP.  Every team with a potential gripe gets in.  8 seems like the perfect number to me.
I'm not sure this should be the deciding factor:  every team with a potential gripe gets in?  Are we married and caving into the wife when she nags us enough?  The phrasing is icky to me.
This is cutthroat competition, no?  Fair?  Are we whining that it's not fair?  Do what FSU did 40 years ago.  
9/19/81 @ 17 Nebraska
10/3/81 @ 7 Ohio State
10/10/81 @ ND
10/17/81 @ 3 Pitt
10/24/81 @ LSU
Sure, they were an independent, but they didn't whine.  They played whoever, wherever, even on the road, and earned their way to the top of the ladder.  If UCF has hit a ceiling, then go independent and load up on 2-for-1 deals and get after it.
Here's UCF's record vs ranked teams since they won the Fiesta Bowl in 2013 (ranked at the time of the game):
@ 20 Missouri - L by 28
21 Houston - L by 49
@ 5 Michigan - L by 37
22 USF - W by 7
16 Memphis - W by 7
7 Auburn - W by 7
19 Cincinnati - W by 25
In five years, they've played 7 ranked teams (at the time).  Four of those were fellow mid-majors.  Three others were blowout losses.  
To be honest, looking at everything, the 2017/18 UCF teams should get on their knees and kiss the feet of the 2013 squad.  All they did was lose by three @ 12th ranked South Carolina, hand #8 Louisville it's only loss (led by Teddy Bridgewater), and beat #6 Baylor by 10.  Oh, and they beat Penn State in Happy Valley.  All in the same season.  THAT team has a gripe, not last year's or this year's Knights.  F- them.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2018, 08:31:20 PM »
Or just win the beauty contest.  Pass the eye test.  Have a resume and performance the committee can't deny.




When did that become an unrealistic goal???  College football has always been about urgency.  It's great because EVERY loss is potentially damning.  Whether it's 1973 or 83 or 2023, every loss should make a team feel like it's in peril.  That it lost it's chance.  



Or we could open the floodgates so no one's feelings get hurt.  
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #36 on: December 13, 2018, 08:42:10 PM »
the last 5 is impressive

too bad it's not 5 in the past 2 seasons

22 USF - W by 7
16 Memphis - W by 7
7 Auburn - W by 7
19 Cincinnati - W by 25
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2018, 08:45:30 PM »
I disagree actually - would you call it impressive if Clemson or Georgia's two wins vs. G5 teams were by 7 points each?  I'd call those outcomes embarrassing, even if both teams were ranked.  


A G5 team ranked in the teens or twenties is simply a G5 team that didn't schedule anybody tough, so they have a nice record.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2018, 08:49:36 PM »
hey, I didn't say it was enough to put them in the top 4

just impressive

Georgia hasn't won 5 in a row vs the top 25

has Clemson?
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #39 on: December 13, 2018, 09:41:27 PM »
So the current 4 team playoff contract can be opted out in 2022. I think I would prefer that we go to 6 teams, see how that plays out before jumping straight to 8.

Run it for 6 years, at 6 (Kinda like it seems we are going to do with the 4 teams playoff.) And see how hard the push back it to go to 8.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2018, 09:49:51 PM »
Quote from: TyphonInc on December 13, 2018, 09:41:27 PM
So the current 4 team playoff contract can be opted out in 2022. I think I would prefer that we go to 6 teams, see how that plays out before jumping straight to 8.

Run it for 6 years, at 6 (Kinda like it seems we are going to do with the 4 teams playoff.) And see how hard the push back it to go to 8.
6 is hard  If you make it conference champs + at large, the G5 goes nuts. 
If you make it conference champs + best G5, the SEC goes nuts because they can't have two teams. 
If you make it "best 6 teams", the people who worry about diluting the championship AND the people who want conference championships to matter go nuts.
It's lose-lose-lose. 
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2018, 09:51:10 PM »
the G5 loses with 6
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