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Topic: Should playoff teams be expanded?

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Cincydawg

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2018, 05:50:19 PM »
Here's something to ponder.  An expanded playoff would:

1.  Generate more money.
2.  Likely generate more fan interest.
3.  Is desired by most CFB fans who think it's obvious.

And yet we don't have it, nor are the prospects for having it in say 5 years looking good at all.

It might contemplating the reasons it does not exist as they are barriers one has to traverse.

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2018, 10:58:13 PM »
Assuming that we had adopted an 8-team playoff with auto-bids for the five P5 Champions and the highest ranked G5 Champion, here are the quarter-final match-ups that would have occurred from 2014-2018:
2014:
  • #1 SEC Champion Alabama vs #20 MWC Champion Boise State
  • #2 PAC Champion Oregon vs #7 MissSt
  • #3 ACC Champion Florida State vs #6 TCU
  • #4 B1G Champion Ohio State vs B12 Champion Baylor
  • Best teams left out is #8 Michigan State (10-2)
2015:
  • #1 ACC Champion Clemson vs #18 AAC Champion Houston
  • #2 SEC Champion Alabama vs #7 Ohio State
  • #3 B1G Champion Michigan State vs #6 PAC Champion Stanford
  • #4 B12 Champion Oklahoma vs #5 Iowa
  • Best team left out is #8 Notre Dame (10-2)
2016:
  • #1 SEC Champion Alabama vs #15 MAC Champion Western Michigan
  • #2 ACC Champion Clemson vs #7 B12 Champion Oklahoma
  • #3 Ohio State vs #6 Michigan
  • #4 PAC Champion Washington vs #5 B1G Champion PSU
  • Best team left out is #8 Wisconsin (10-3)
2017:
  • #1 ACC Champion Clemson vs #12 AAC Champion UCF
  • #2 B12 Champion Oklahoma vs #8 PAC Champion USC
  • #3 SEC Champion Georgia vs #6 Wisconsin
  • #4 Alabama vs #5 B1G Champion Ohio State
  • Best team left out is #7 Auburn (10-3)
2018:
  • #1 SEC Champion Alabama vs #9 PAC Champion Washington
  • #2 ACC Champion Clemson vs #8 AAC Champion UCF
  • #3 Notre Dame vs #6 B1G Champion Ohio State
  • #4 B12 Champion Oklahoma vs #5 Georgia
  • Best teams left out is #7 Michigan (10-2)

This honestly seems fine. I like that most of the No. 9 teams were playing for a spot in the CCG or the last week of the regular season. 

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2018, 11:10:37 PM »
I voted, NO
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2018, 11:02:02 AM »
Here's something to ponder.  An expanded playoff would:

1.  Generate more money.
2.  Likely generate more fan interest.
3.  Is desired by most CFB fans who think it's obvious.

And yet we don't have it, nor are the prospects for having it in say 5 years looking good at all.

It might contemplating the reasons it does not exist as they are barriers one has to traverse.
It's rare anymore you see a decision that leaves money on the table.  We all know which way this is going.

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2018, 11:04:02 AM »
Apparently UCF's AD said Florida offered them a 2 for 1 and they turned it down, because no other school in their position, coming off consecutive top 10 finishes would agree to anything less than a home and home, and that given recent success, they should get the 2 home games.

I'm sorry, but if that's your mentality, you don't deserve a shot at the playoff.  Just getting a P5 team to play you at this point is tough, and one willing to do a 3 game series that includes one true home game for you?  You take that deal every time.  My guess is the 13-0 National Champions* is worth more to them than a home game, and winding up 12-1.

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2018, 11:15:37 AM »
Of course. 

Every power 5 and UCF's of the world should be allowed to play for the title.

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2018, 11:24:54 AM »
I submit that an expanded playoff is a decade or more in the future, even with money being left on the table.  There are significant interests against this expansion.

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2018, 11:29:52 AM »
Of course it will take a long time. What has that got to do with whether or not we personally believe that it should be done?
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2018, 11:57:42 AM »
I'll trade an 8 team playoff for the elimination of conference championship games and ending the regular season no later than Thanksgiving. 

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2018, 12:01:12 PM »
Of course it will take a long time. What has that got to do with whether or not we personally believe that it should be done?
Not a thing about anyone's personal beliefs, nor did I suggest such a thing.
I am pointing out that interested powerful parties apparently are against this move, obviously.

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2018, 12:07:45 PM »
They probably are. It took them forever to get to this point
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2018, 12:33:38 PM »
No, for the sanctity of the regular season.  I don’t want it to turn into college basketball.

Important for 4 months > Important for 3 weeks.
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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2018, 03:03:16 PM »
Apparently UCF's AD said Florida offered them a 2 for 1 and they turned it down, because no other school in their position, coming off consecutive top 10 finishes would agree to anything less than a home and home, and that given recent success, they should get the 2 home games.

I'm sorry, but if that's your mentality, you don't deserve a shot at the playoff.  Just getting a P5 team to play you at this point is tough, and one willing to do a 3 game series that includes one true home game for you?  You take that deal every time.  My guess is the 13-0 National Champions* is worth more to them than a home game, and winding up 12-1.
That and the fact that the chose to schedule an FCS team make their *NC a complete joke.  I didn't like it when B1G teams played FCS opponents and I am not a fan of SEC teams doing it now but for them/us it balances off the schedule.  For UCF it is a complete joke.  They are 13-0 with ZERO wins over ranked teams.  You can't schedule that complete crap and then cry that you didn't get into the playoff.  

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Re: Should playoff teams be expanded?
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2018, 03:10:36 PM »
Amen

If the Gators offered them a 2-1 they should have been thrilled with the opportunity and grabbed it with both hands

if they want in the top 4, UCF should be looking for deals like this.
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