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Topic: How to Hire a New Coach

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OrangeAfroMan

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How to Hire a New Coach
« on: November 26, 2017, 10:48:51 PM »
1.  Make a list of realistic, quality candidates
2.  Make contacts with people around those on your list 
3.  If there is interest, as there should be (because they're on your list), you meet with them.
4.  Hold off on offering, unless the top candidate is ready to sign.
5.  Do not obsess on one candidate, realize there are numerous quality candidates.
6.  While waiting for one to decide, meet with others.
7.  Sign one of your top candidates.
8.  Read news reports of how your new coach 'makes sense', 'is a good hire', and 'has the fanbase behind it'.

“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2017, 11:45:45 PM »
yup... fairly simple process...

congrats on Mullen... i really figured he'd go to college station.  not busting on UF, but thinking College Station a better fit for him.  I jested about Leech at UF for fun- but he is the 'style' i figured UF was after. 

smart to keep it in family, too... damn near perfect.... UF won again. 

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2017, 09:07:43 AM »
1.  Make a list of realistic, quality candidates
2.  Make contacts with people around those on your list
3.  If there is interest, as there should be (because they're on your list), you meet with them.
4.  Hold off on offering, unless the top candidate is ready to sign.
5.  Do not obsess on one candidate, realize there are numerous quality candidates.
6.  While waiting for one to decide, meet with others.
7.  Sign one of your top candidates.
8.  Read news reports of how your new coach 'makes sense', 'is a good hire', and 'has the fanbase behind it'.
I'd add to your list...
9.  Don't overpay 
10.  Don't guarantee the contract / include a reasonable buy-out for both parties.
That last item is one that A&M struggles with.  

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2017, 11:42:09 AM »
Shiner, 

Some LSU guys are claiming Fisher to tamu is a done deal.  True or full of crap? 

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2017, 01:26:12 PM »
Shiner,

Some LSU guys are claiming Fisher to tamu is a done deal.  True or full of crap?
From what I can tell.... it's more likely true than not.  He's been the target of A&M since September.  We haven't heard any other names mentioned.... neither side is talking right now and Fisher hasn't denied anything.  It looks like this makeup game for FSU with ULM is what has thrown a wrench in this otherwise he might've been introduced as HC as soon as today.
Rumors are he'll be named HC sometime next weekend after their final game.
All that said... I'll believe it when I see it.  Lot of time between now and Saturday for him to change his mind.  

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2017, 08:16:38 PM »
Okay, for those keeping score at home.....

1.  Gruden.....HAHAHAHAHAHA no
2.  Kelly....nope
3.  Patterson?  no
4.  Peterson?  no
5.  Mullen  no
6.  Schiano....yeah no
7.  Cutcliffe    no
8.  Jason Witten (WTF?) no
9.  He's a man, he's 40! Gundy  no
10. Brohm  no
11. Kiffin  (see tweets) hell no
12. Jim Bob Cooter (bad name, good coach) no
13.  NC State guy....we'll see
14.  Hawai'i Defensive Coordinator....maybe
15.  Peyton Manning's forehead....fingers crossed
16.  my left testicle.....
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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2017, 10:32:15 AM »
I'd start with whatever the Vols have done, and do whatever is the opposite of that.


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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2017, 10:33:59 AM »
Okay, for those keeping score at home.....

1.  Gruden.....HAHAHAHAHAHA no
2.  Kelly....nope
3.  Patterson?  no
4.  Peterson?  no
5.  Mullen  no
6.  Schiano....yeah no
7.  Cutcliffe    no
8.  Jason Witten (WTF?) no
9.  He's a man, he's 40! Gundy  no
10. Brohm  no
11. Kiffin  (see tweets) hell no
12. Jim Bob Cooter (bad name, good coach) no
13.  NC State guy....we'll see
14.  Hawai'i Defensive Coordinator....maybe
15.  Peyton Manning's forehead....fingers crossed
16.  my left testicle.....
add mike leach to the list
and now the ad currie has been fired.

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2017, 10:41:53 AM »
also, from bruce feldman:

Industry source: “Throughout this entire (#Tennessee) coaching search Phil Fulmer has tried to undermine AD John Currie in hopes of becoming the AD there.”

why is this not surprising? and, sorry drew, but if this is remotely true, i know the man loves tenn, but that man is a cancer and needs to be disassociated asap.

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2017, 11:09:43 AM »
also, from bruce feldman:

Industry source: “Throughout this entire (#Tennessee) coaching search Phil Fulmer has tried to undermine AD John Currie in hopes of becoming the AD there.”

why is this not surprising? and, sorry drew, but if this is remotely true, i know the man loves tenn, but that man is a cancer and needs to be disassociated asap.
when i say this is a soap opera, i ain't kiddin. 
and it draws you in like a movie script- character's are developed, plots presented.. it's- hilarious without that intent. 
so... 
Davenport hired Currie who was her friend and friend of booster Jimmy Haslam... she took the role over who was the heir apparent Blackburn, who had every intention to hire Fulmer as AD.  Fulmer's like a tick- he's embedded.  
Haslam runs the show- Davenport and Currie are on his leash.  So is Phil.  
there has been an active attempt to see Currie fail since this all started, and in effort to project Blackburn and Fulmer, which almost every heavyweight booster other than haslam has wanted since davenport being appointed- knowing that davenport was controlled by haslam and the next HC would be their choice alone.  butch jones had no enemies, but he had no friends, either.  what he offered in his floundering (which he had been given a number of wins else be fired) was opportunity for blackburn and fulmer (not exactly them, but the people behind them) satisfied by having 'their dog' running the show instead of haslam's. 
funny: fulmer is a haslam man, too.  
supposedly, fulmer (part of the three headed 'committee' formed by currie and including haslam) has a man prepped for announcement that will make him seem like the hero of this tale- that the other boosters and blackburn have been prepping since it was found haslam couldn't shove Schiano down the throats of everything UT... and it appears that davenport, in effort to save herself (politician always) has left currie out in the breeze- basically shooting down every potential hire he's brought back to her for her approval.  
game of thrones or some such crap is happening here.... if you are to subscribe... and, i do to a degree believe there is a inner-office struggle taking place without doubt.  the details i don't know, but... all the way back to davenport and currie's hiring, there has been tremendous unrest at UT.  
Fulmer is a tool in all of this.  he's a good man, but he is certainly going to be the 'hero'.  if the name i've heard him having is true, it is a suitable coach.  
this ain't over with, though.. the coach will be hired likely by tomorrow (or Sunday morning), but the struggles and fallout on that hill are far from over.  I'm thinking the next target is davenport... i also wonder how they'll handle the haslam fallout, as he had promised pony'ing up for a great portion of the renovations coming to Neyland... that throne he purchased and it buried him in the halls of UT for as long as he wants- and he is opposed to blackburn... supposedly... 
heheheeheheheeeeeeee!!!!! this is a hot mess like NOTHING i've seen before in college football.  HBO? yes... football? nope. 

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2017, 12:02:16 PM »
And the beat goes on.....

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2017, 12:15:55 PM »
also, from bruce feldman:

Industry source: “Throughout this entire (#Tennessee) coaching search Phil Fulmer has tried to undermine AD John Currie in hopes of becoming the AD there.”

why is this not surprising? and, sorry drew, but if this is remotely true, i know the man loves tenn, but that man is a cancer and needs to be disassociated asap.
If Fat Phil tanked Schiano and Brohm because he's genuinely convinced that's a disaster for the program....well, okay....that wasn't his place, but at least I sort of see where he's coming from.  If he did it just to ensure Currie's ouster setting him up to be the AD, then I UT should include him in the package being kicked to the curb.
Also--just my $0.02--Jimmy Haslam is the Browns guy, right?  Given the state of the Browns, I wouldn't let that guy have jack squat to do with decision making.   

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2017, 12:41:16 PM »
the accusation is misplaced in @rolltidefan 's post, is my point.   Phil is gonna be the guy to benefit (apparently) but it isn't his doing.. it's the doing of the movers and shakers behind him- who feel they can use him to execute whatever it is they require, without having the obstacle of Currie, Davenport, and Haslam cutting them off at the knees (and, presumably, making gain off of whatever it is the group behind Fulmer seek to make gain from). 

haslam isn't going anywhere.  he sit's atop the flying J/pilot chain, owns the brown's, and has a brother as a governor of tennessee... he's as embedded as Phil is.  

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Re: How to Hire a New Coach
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2017, 01:40:31 PM »
Looks to be official now... Jimbo Fisher leaving FSU for A&M.  Won't coach FSU's last regular season game tomorrow.  Pressers coming soon.

This situation feels like the exact opposite of the Tennessee debacle.  Whereas they have shit the bed at every turn during their coaching search.... A&M handled this situation to near perfection.  

 

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