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medinabuckeye1

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The 1996 National Championship
« on: February 01, 2019, 10:45:40 AM »
In preparation for @OrangeAfroMan 's upcoming post on who would win the 1996 CFP:

I've always thought this was an interesting year in part due to my team's involvement (UF couldn't have won without the exact results of Ohio State's last two games - lost to M, beat ASU).  Also because of the way UF lost, seemed to fall out of contention, then got back into contention and ultimately won their first NC.  Also, IIRC, this was the most recent year in which the AP National Champion had never previously won an AP NC.  

On November 11 every team in the top-10 had zero or one losses and they all (with the exception of #10 BYU) had at least a plausible shot at the NC.  That weekend (11/16) three of the top-10 lost with two of those losses being shocking upsets:
  • #6/7 UNC lost to a mediocre UVA team
  • #8 Bama lost to a sub .500 MissSt team
  • #9 KSU lost to #6 Colorado.  
When the dust settled from the 11/16 upsets there were six teams left with a plausible chance at the NC.  What is surprising is that all six lost between then and the end of the season.  
  • #2 Ohio State lost to Michigan on 11/23
  • #6 Colorado lost to UNL on 11/29
  • #1 Florida lost to FSU on 11/30
  • #5 UNL lost to Texas on 12/7
  • #4 ASU lost to tOSU on 1/1
  • #3 FSU lost to UF on 1/2
Saturday, November 23, 1996:
  • #1 Florida did not play
  • #2 Ohio State lost 13-9 to #21 Michigan
  • #3 Florida State beat nr Maryland 48-10
  • #4 Arizona State beat nr Arizona 56-14
  • #5 Nebraska did not play
  • #6 Colorado did not play
Thanksgiving weekend, Friday and Saturday November 29/30, 1996:
  • #1 Florida lost to #2 Florida State 24-21
  • #2 Florida State beat #1 Florida 24-21
  • #3 Arizona State did not play
  • #4 Nebraska beat #5 Colorado 17-12
  • #5 Colorado lost to #4 Nebraska 17-12 (Colorado is not included after this loss because it was their second and dropped them from contention)
  • #6 Ohio State did not play
CCG Weekend, Saturday, December 7, 1996:
  • #1 Florida State did not play
  • #2 Arizona State did not play
  • #3 Nebraska lost to nr Texas 37-27 (Nebraska is not included after this loss because it was their second and dropped them from contention)
  • #4 Florida beat #11 Alabama 45-30
  • #5 Ohio State did not play
Bowls:
  • #1 Florida State lost to #3 Florida 52-20
  • #2 Arizona State lost to #4 Ohio State 20-17
  • #3 Florida beat #1 Florida State 52-20
  • #4 Ohio State beat #2 Arizona State 20-17

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2019, 10:57:25 AM »
You do good work around here.

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2019, 11:04:24 AM »
I also find this particular season fascinating because if this had played out either a few years earlier or a few years later Florida would not have had a chance at the NC.  

This was in the Bowl Championship Alliance era.  That is a very short era of only three seasons from 1995-1997 before the BCS.  

If this had played out prior to the BCA:
  • FSU would have finished the regular season #1 and ACC Champions.  They would likely have headed to the OrangeBowl to play Big8 Champion #3 Nebraska.  
  • ASU would have finished the season #2 and Pac10 Champions headed to the RoseBowl to play #5 Ohio State.  
  • Nebraska wouldn't have had a B12CG because they were in the Big8 where they would have finished 10-1 Big8 Champions and #3 headed to the OrangeBowl to play #1 FSU.  
  • Florida would have finished the regular season 11-1 and SEC Champions at #4.  They would have headed to the SugarBowl to play?  
  • Ohio State would have finished the regular season 10-1 and Big11Ten Champions at #5.  They would have headed to the RoseBowl to play #2 ASU.  
If this had played out a few years later in the BCS era:
  • #1 FSU and #2 ASU would have played in the BCSCG.  #3 Florida would have been in the SugarBowl while #4 Ohio State would have been in the RoseBowl against an ASU replacement.  

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2019, 11:05:43 AM »
and ya wonder why some folks think I hate the Longhorns

I don't btw, but some folks think I might, and Saturday, December 7, 1996 would be a good reason
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2019, 11:11:09 AM »
If this had played out prior to the BCA:
  • FSU would have finished the regular season #1 and ACC Champions.  They would likely have headed to the OrangeBowl to play Big8 Champion #3 Nebraska.  
  • ASU would have finished the season #2 and Pac10 Champions headed to the RoseBowl to play #5 Ohio State.  
  • Nebraska wouldn't have had a B12CG because they were in the Big8 where they would have finished 10-1 Big8 Champions and #3 headed to the Orange Bowl to play #1 FSU.  
yup, first year of the Big 12 didn't help the Husker's chances at a 3-peat
Obviously could have been beaten by #1 FSU in the Orange, it's happened before, but if the Skers got the upset and revenge all they needed was an Ohio St victory over #2 ASU and there would be no chance for Florida 
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2019, 11:32:27 AM »
yup, first year of the Big 12 didn't help the Husker's chances at a 3-peat
Obviously could have been beaten by #1 FSU in the Orange, it's happened before, but if the Skers got the upset and revenge all they needed was an Ohio St victory over #2 ASU and there would be no chance for Florida
I don't think there would be much chance for Ohio State there either but it would have been an interesting debate.  Suppose that happened:  1996 plays out but pre BCA:
  • #1 Florida State loses to #3 Nebraska in the OrangeBowl
  • #2 Arizona State loses to #5 Ohio State in the RoseBowl
  • #3 Nebraska beats #1 FSU in the OrangeBowl
  • #4 Florida . . . For simplicity lets just assume they lose in the SugarBowl.  
  • #5 Ohio State beats #2 ASU in the RoseBowl

Ohio State would be Nebraska's only contention for the final #1 ranking.  
  • Losses:  Ohio State lost 13-9 at home to a Michigan team that finished the season ranked #20.  Nebraska lost 19-0 on the road to an ASU team that finished the season ranked #4.  Ohio State's loss was closer but it was at home and to a worse team.  That favors Nebraska. 
Quality wins:
  • Ohio State beat final #4 ASU 20-17 at a neutral site in a bowl.  
  • In this hypothetical Nebraska beat final #3 FSU but we haven't stipulated a score.  
  • Ohio State also beat #7 PSU (38-7 at home), #18 Iowa (38-26 on the road), #19 Notre Dame (29-16 on the road).  
  • Nebraska also beat #8 Colorado (17-12 at home).  I am not including Nebraska's loss to #23 Texas or their win over #13 VaTech because in this hypothetical neither of those games happened.  
Common opponents:
  • Nebraska played MSU from the Big11Ten, but the Buckeyes didn't so there is only one:
  • Arizona State:  The Buckeyes beat the Sun Devils 20-17 at a neutral site, the Cornhuskers lost to them 19-0 on the road.  Obviously this favors Ohio State.  

The big wildcard is the Nebraska/FSU score.  Ohio State has a much better schedule with five ranked opponents (2 home, 2 road, 1 neutral) compared to Nebraska's three (1 home, 1 road, 1 neutral).  Ohio State's blowout win over #7 Penn State easily betters Nebraska's win over #8 Colorado and Nebraska has nothing to compare to Ohio State's two road wins over ranked teams.  

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2019, 11:38:32 AM »
the other factor would be the Husker's two previous undefeated seasons and crystal footballs

do the voters give them the vote because of respect for the past seasons or do they favor the Bucks because they don't care to see the Huskers get 3 in a row?

interesting, sure wish the Big 12 would have waited a year and we could have this scenario play out.

In this case as with the 97 season, I would have been very happy with a split
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2019, 11:48:48 AM »
The '96 Huskers wouldn't have beaten FSU in that matchup IMO. Our most dynamic player on defense (Terrell Farley) had been booted off the team and our top 2 IBs (Ahman Green and DeAngelo Evans) had chronic injuries. Evans season was actually done after the CGG. 

Still good enough to put away #10 Virginny Tech by 20 in the Orange Bowl, but FSU was a different animal. 

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2019, 11:59:11 AM »
I'd agree.  Although Green did run 7 times vs the Hokies for 52 yards

Terwillinger was a senior, but obviously no Farley
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2019, 12:06:44 PM »
Ok, so personal story I want to share about those 1996 bowl games:

I was a Senior at Ohio State in 1996 and got a ticket through the school's lottery for students (more on that in a separate post).  In the mean time, my dad talked to a friend who knew a guy who was in the Pasadena Chamber of Commerce and my dad got four tickets for our family (Mom, Dad, Brother, and me) to go to the game.  

We drove to LA, met the friend-of-a-friend who had our tickets and got our tickets a few days early then drove up the coast to Hearst Castle and Morrow Bay California.  That was beautiful.  It was mating season for the Elephant Seals and watching the male Elephant Seals fight (think Sumo Wrestlers but like 2,500 lbs) was great.  Hearst Castle and Morrow Bay were also highlights of a trip that had LOTS of highlights.  

We did NYE in California (if you have never been there for NYE, it is interesting because they do NYC NYE at 9pm, then Chicago NYE at 10pm, then Denver NYE at 11pm, and if anybody hasn't already passed out by then, they have their own NYE at midnight.  

We watched the Rose Parade then walked down to the Rose Bowl for the game.  Ohio State won, of course and after the game we headed for home.  NYD was a Monday and I was off school on Tuesday, January 2 but I had classes on Wednesday, January 3 as did my little brother who was still in HS.  

After the game we headed up I15 toward Barstow, CA to catch I40E toward home.  We had to gas up somewhere along there.  I need to explain this to people who are not familiar with California.  If you haven't been there, you probably think of California as packed with people because they are the most populous state.  That is only somewhat true.  First, it wasn't nearly as populous 20+ years ago and secondly, something like 90% of the population lives in the coastal cities.  The rest of the state is (or at least was) mostly sparsely populated desert.  Anyway, we stopped for gas in some tiny town with two gas stations.  IIRC, gas at the time was selling for about $1.25/gallon and in California it was about $0.50/gallon higher.  One gas station had a price of $1.779 but they were closed.  The other one was charging something like $2.75.  I pointed out that the other station was about a dollar cheaper.  The guy working there said "Yep, they open at 8am and at 8am I'll be charging $1,779 but at midnight it is $2.75.  We paid the ridiculous gas price and drove on.  

If you are not familiar, Barstow, CA is the western terminus of I40.  Some jackass from CADOT decided it would be really funny to put a sign about half-way down the ramp from I15 to I40 that says "I40 East, Wilmington, NC 2,554 Mi".  Let me tell you, that is one depressing sign when you have to drive most of that to get home.  

We spent the night of 1/1/97 - 1/2/97 in a motel in Needles, CA (right on the CA/AZ border) then got up the next morning and drove all the way back to Columbus where my parents and brother dropped me off (then they drove the rest of the way home).  Tuesday morning, January 2, 1997 we stopped in Kingman Arizona to buy an Arizona Newspaper with the Rose Bowl result on the front page.  

I40 is almost 400 miles each across Arizona and New Mexico.  The Orange Bowl was Tuesday evening/night so we listened to it on the Radio across Eastern New Mexico and the Texas Panhandle.  @OrangeAfroMan will appreciate this, we were rooting for a very sloppy UF win, LoL.  

I drove through the night and I remember driving through OKC in the wee hours of Wednesday morning.  We had a CB radio in the van and I was talking with a lady truck driver who was also unfamiliar with OKC.  Everyone in the van was asleep.  When we left OKC heading NE on the Oklahoma Turnpike (I44) the speed limit increased to 75 MPH.  I ran up to about 80 and set the cruise.  Pretty soon the headlights of the 18 wheeler that I had navigated through OKC with were on my bumper then this lady passed me and she had to be doing 90+.  It was so windy that when I got above about 80 MPH the van was getting blown side-to-side across the highway.  I dropped the cruise back to about 80 MPH and told the truck driver to have a safe drive and that I couldn't keep up.  

We got to Columbus in the early afternoon on Wednesday, January 3.  It was a great trip and as I sit here in my office typing this there is a picture frame on the wall behind me containing my ticket stub, an Ohio State logo, and a picture of my Mom, Dad, Brother, and me under the Scoreboard showing the final score.  

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2019, 12:18:27 PM »
that's a long drive

my family drove to Cali and back in 1976.  Gas in Arizona was 75 cents a gallon and I thought my father was gonna make us walk

I flew to the Rose Bowl after the 2001 season.  Many Husker fans drove their diesel pickup trucks
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2019, 12:33:49 PM »
96 was last great poll era season and of the best in my lifetime.  

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2019, 01:36:44 PM »
Wow, we couldn't wait a few days, huh guys?
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2019, 01:57:15 PM »
Very cool, medina.  
I recall watching Florida lose @ FSU and being so full of nervous energy and anger - I immediately went out in the garage and started bench-pressing until I was exhausted and couldn't get the weight off my chest.  I had to clumsily tilt it to one side and let the weights fall off, then have it flip to the other side.  I was too embarrassed to yell for help.  I was 16, lol.
So after that debacle, I go straight to my room and back then I was a sports nut, I mean NUT.  I knew every player on every team in every major sport.  So without needing any TV talking heads or anything, I wrote down the 4 things that needed to happen for Florida to still win the NC.
1.  Texas had to beat Nebraska
2.  Florida had to beat Alabama
3.  Ohio State had to beat ASU
4.  Florida had to beat FSU.
At the time I guess I just figured Florida was too good not to win it all.  It wasn't even "want to", it was more "okay, they're going to win the NC, so how can it still happen, because it's going to happen".  It probably had something to do with the Fiesta Bowl with Nebraska and getting back there again, I don't know.

And it all happened.  Texas beating Nebraska was, by far, the least likely, so once that happened, it was on.  Wuerffel passed for 6 TDs on Bama, who had only allowed 5 passing TD all season.  Germaine to Boston sent Jake the Snake packing, and by the time the Sugar Bowl rolled around, I'm not sure FSU had much of a chance.  The Noles were sort of like the Cardinals after the Red Sox came back from 0-3 to beat the Yankees to reverse the curse...after all that magic, they were standing in the way of the storybook ending.

And THAT'S the game Spurrier finally relented, changed/updated his blocking scheme to join the 20th century, and used a lot of shotgun.  Imagine if he'd allow his great offense to be pantsed in the NCG again!?!  He had to change and thankfully did.  The defense didn't let Warrick Dunn beat them again, and we got our first natty.  Still my favorite team of all-time.  
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