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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2018, 12:55:15 PM »
Washington absolutely should have played BYU.  Back in those days, it was common for a team ranked 3-5th to jump up to #1 after beating #1 in the bowl game. 
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2018, 01:46:01 PM »

If you take away off of BYU's TDs on Offense, Defense and Special Teams, then they never would have won that National Championship! 

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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2018, 02:24:56 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 16, 2018, 11:29:29 AM
I highly doubt it.  Playing BYU would have been a lose/lose proposition for any of the top teams.  Nebraska or any other real top-10 team would have been favored by at least two TD's.  It is lose/lose because:
I'd say lose/lose/lose
the Big 8 conference would not have enjoyed sharing the payout for the Holiday vs what the Huskers were paid to play LSU in the Sugar
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2018, 02:34:43 PM »
Would a program back then have opted for a lesser bowl payout just to win a "mythical"?

I don't think so, money talks.
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2018, 02:41:01 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 16, 2018, 12:55:15 PM
Washington absolutely should have played BYU.  Back in those days, it was common for a team ranked 3-5th to jump up to #1 after beating #1 in the bowl game.
But the catch-22 for #4 Washington was that BYU's #1 ranking was tenuous and controversial.  Washington obviously would have manhandled BYU if they had played them but most voters would simply have seen that as proof that BYU wasn't any good and moved up #2 Oklahoma and #3 Florida.  Washington was at least as well off playing #2 Oklahoma because that win proved that Washington was really good.  It moved them up to #2 which is the best they could have gotten.  
The only way Washington would have gotten to #1 is if Oklahoma AND BYU lost and Washington couldn't beat both of them so they needed help.  Given their situation it made sense to leave the lighter job to somebody else.  They did the heavy lifting and beat Oklahoma.  They just needed somebody to beat BYU.  Too bad the team that played BYU didn't get that done.  So, what we have learned is that it is all Michigan's fault.  That is pretty constant.  No matter what the problem is, bottom line, it is all Michigan's fault.  
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2018, 03:02:43 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 16, 2018, 02:34:43 PM
Would a program back then have opted for a lesser bowl payout just to win a "mythical"?

I don't think so, money talks.
I think a program very well may have to gain some glory, but they would have to answer to their conference mates
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2018, 03:06:04 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 16, 2018, 02:41:01 PM
They just needed somebody to beat BYU.  Too bad the team that played BYU didn't get that done.  So, what we have learned is that it is all Michigan's fault.  That is pretty constant.  No matter what the problem is, bottom line, it is all Michigan's fault.  
I can't remember if I actually rooted for Michigan in the Holiday bowl or not.  Can't imagine that I did.  But, I certainly blamed Michigan for allowing the Mormans to claim that mythical title
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2018, 03:42:59 PM »
Or, the Orange Bowl payout was substantially more than the Holiday bowl.
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2018, 08:24:14 PM »
1984:

not only did a small named and small statured school with the mythical title, a little runt named Flutie playing at a school of small stature won the hypesman
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2018, 09:03:05 PM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on November 16, 2018, 02:41:01 PM
But the catch-22 for #4 Washington was that BYU's #1 ranking was tenuous and controversial.  Washington obviously would have manhandled BYU if they had played them but most voters would simply have seen that as proof that BYU wasn't any good and moved up #2 Oklahoma and #3 Florida.  Washington was at least as well off playing #2 Oklahoma because that win proved that Washington was really good.  It moved them up to #2 which is the best they could have gotten.  
The only way Washington would have gotten to #1 is if Oklahoma AND BYU lost and Washington couldn't beat both of them so they needed help.  Given their situation it made sense to leave the lighter job to somebody else.  They did the heavy lifting and beat Oklahoma.  They just needed somebody to beat BYU.  Too bad the team that played BYU didn't get that done.  So, what we have learned is that it is all Michigan's fault.  That is pretty constant.  No matter what the problem is, bottom line, it is all Michigan's fault.  
1 - If you're likely to blowout #1, then you should do that
2 - We don't know if that's the best they could have gotten
3 - As I stated previously, it was common back then for the team to beat #1 in a bowl to leapfrog other bowl winners above them
UW should have played #1 instead of #2, period.
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2018, 09:48:56 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 16, 2018, 09:03:05 PM

3 - As I stated previously, it was common back then for the team to beat #1 in a bowl to leapfrog other bowl winners above them

true, but those instances were against a #1 that was highly respected.  BYU was not
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2018, 10:38:10 PM »
Ehhh they were respected enough to be #1...
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2018, 11:09:32 PM »
they weren't respected then and they still aren't respected
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Re: What If Playoff Vote - 1984
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2018, 11:11:09 PM »
I think Fearless and Fro ought to dook it out. 
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