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Topic: All Time Best Numbers (uPDATED)

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FearlessF

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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2018, 04:20:14 PM »
good idea!
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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2018, 08:57:13 PM »
All-Time Numerical B10 Team:

QB - Barrett (OSU) 16
RB - Dayne (WIS) 33
RB - Griffin (OSU) 45
WR - Stubblefield (PU) 21
WR - Edwards (UM) 1
TE - Stratton (PU) 89
OL - Pace (OSU) 75
OL - Thomas (WIS) 72
OL - Parker (OSU) 62
OL - Long (UM) 77
C - Eslinger (MINN) 71
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DE - Smith (MSU) 35
DE - Bosa (OSU) 97
DT - Stillwagon (OSU) 68
DT - Gardner (ILL) 95
LB - Posluszny (PSU) 31
LB - Fitzgerald (NU) 51
LB - Cousineau (OSU) 36
CB - Woodson (UM) 2
CB - Brosky (ILL) 27
S - Tatum (OSU) 32
S - Leonhard (WIS) 18
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P - Roby (IOWA) 7
K - Nugent (OSU) 85
KR - Desmond Howard (UM) 21
PR - Tim Dwight (IOWA) 6
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Edit at your leisure.
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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2018, 09:29:58 PM »
obviously, much less difficult than 1-99
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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2018, 11:23:43 PM »
I wouldn't say easier, just quicker.  

Everyone could pitch in with their school's best players and their numbers - that would make it easier.  But that would require participation.
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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2018, 12:46:32 AM »
Dick Butkus MLB, Illinois #50 (NO explanation necessary)
Alex Karras DT, Iowa #77 (Outland Award; 2nd in Heisman voting and a lineman; Webster's dad; Paper Lion)

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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2018, 03:10:15 AM »
1-Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Pitt
2-Deion Sanders, CB, FSU
3-Carson Palmer, QB, USC
4-Champ Bailey, CB, Georgia
5-Reggie Bush, RB, USC  Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
6-Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
7-Danny Wuerffel, QB, Florida
8-Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon
9-Jim McMahon, QB, BYU
10-Derrick Brooks, LB, FSU
11-LaVar Arrington, LB, Penn St
12-Roger Staubach, QB, Navy
13-Dan Marino, QB, Pitt
14-Don Hutson, WR, Alabama
15-Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
16-Jim Plunkett, QB, Stanford
17-Charlie Ward, QB, FSU
18-Archie Manning, QB, Ole Miss
19-Eric Dickerson, RB, SMU
20-Earl Campbell, RB, Texas
21-Barry Sanders, RB, Oklahoma St
22-Doug Flutie, QB, Boston College
23-Leroy Keyes, RB, Purdue
24-Nile Kinnick, RB, Iowa
25-Melvin Gordon, RB, Wisconsin
26-Sean Taylor, S, Miami
27-Eddie George, RB, Ohio St
28-Marshall Faulk, RB, San Diego St
29-Rickey Dixon, S, Oklahoma
30-Mike Rozier, RB, Nebraska
31-Paul Posluszny, LB, Penn St
32-OJ Simpson, RB, USC
33-Ron Dayne, RB, Wisconsin
34-Herschel Walker, RB, Georgia
35-Alan Ameche, FB, Wisconsin
36-Chris Spielman, LB, Ohio St
37-Doak Walker, RB, SMU
38-George Rogers, RB, South Carolina
39-Curtis Enis, RB, Penn St
40-Howard Cassady, RB, Ohio St
41-Glenn Davis, RB, Army
42-Ronnie Lott, S, USC
43-Antonio Langham, CB, Alabama
44-Brian Bosworth, LB, Oklahoma
45-Archie Griffin, RB, Ohio St
46-Bob Ferguson, FB, Ohio St
47-David Pollock, DE, Georgia
48-Gale Sayers, RB, Kansas
49-Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss
50-Dick Butkus, C/LB, Illinois
51-Pat Fitzgerald, LB, Northwestern
52-Ray Lewis, LB, Miami
53-Randy Gradishar, LB, Ohio St....is half this list Buckeyes?!?
54-Lee Roy Jordan, LB, Alabama
55-Derrick Thomas, LB, Alabama
56-Michael Barrow, LB, Miami
57-Dwight Stevenson, C, Alabama
58-Rey Maualuga, LB, USC
59-Percy Snow, LB, Michigan St
60-Tommy Nobis, LB, Texas
61-Tom Brown, G, Minnesota
62-Jim Parker, T, Ohio St
63-Mike Singletary, LB, Baylor
64-Jim Lachey, G, Ohio St
65-
66-Will Shields, G, Nebraska
67-Russell Maryland, DT, Miami
68-Jim Stillwagon, MG, Ohio St
69-
70-
71-Merlin Olsen, DT, Utah St
72-Bronco Nagurski, FB/DT, Minnesota
73-John Hannah, T, Alabama
74-Tracy Rocker, DT, Auburn
75-Orlando Pace, OT, Ohio St
76-Warren Sapp, DT, Miami
77-Red Grange, RB, Illinois
78-Bruce Smith, DE, Virginia Tech
79-Bill Fralic, OT, Pitt
80-Eric Curry, DE, Alabama
81-Alan Page, DT, Notre Dame
82-Leon Hart, E, Notre Dame
83-Richard Wood, LB, USC
84-Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan
85-Charles Young, TE, USC
86-Courtney Brown, DE, Penn St
87-Herman Moore, WR, Virginia
88-Keith Jackson, TE, Oklahoma
89-Ross Browner, DE, Notre Dame
90-Steve Emtman, DT, Washington
91-Dewey Selmon, DT, Oklahoma
92-Reggie White, DT, Tennessee
93-Lee Roy Selmon, DT, Oklahoma
94-Jared DeVries, DT, Iowa
95-Bubba Smith, DE, Michigan St
96-Cortez Kennedy, DT, Miami
97-Cornelius Bennett, LB, Alabama
98-Lawrence Taylor, LB, North Carolina
99-Hugh Green, DE, Pitt
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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2018, 06:37:16 AM »
1-Anthony Carter
2-Deion Sanders
3-Joey Harrington
4-
5-Reggie Bush
6-Jerome Bettis
7-Danny Wuerffel
8-
9-
10-Derrick Brooks
11-
12-
13-
14-Eric Berry
15-Tim Tebow
16-Peyton Manning
17-
18-
19-Ike Hilliard
20-Bernie Kosar
21-Barry Sanders
22-Doug Flutie
23-
24-
25-Raghib Ismail
26-Rod Woodson
27-
28-Marshall Faulk
29-
30-
31-Paul Posluszny
32-OJ Simpson
33-Ron Dayne
34-Herschel Walker
35-Bubba Smith
36-
37-Shaun Alexander
38-
39-
40- Mike Alstott
41-
42-Ronnie Lott
43-
44-Brian Bosworth
45-Archie Griffin
46-
47-Michael Irvin
48-
49-
50-Dick Butkus
51-Brandon Spikes
52-
53-
54-
55-Marvin Jones
56-Michael Barrow
57-
58-
59-
60-
61-
62-Mike Singletary
63-
64-
65-
66-Will Shields
67-Russell Maryland
68-
69-
70-
71-
72-
73-
74-
75-Orlando Pace
76-Warren Sap
77-
78-
79-
80-
81-Tim Brown
82-
83-
84-
85-
86-
87-
88-Randy Moss
89-
90-
91-
92-
93-Lee Roy Sselmon
94-
95-
96-
97-
98-
99-

Off the cuff, unresearched, before I go to work, filling in some numbers off the top of my head.

8- Marcus Mariotta
9- Jim McMahon
11- Antoine Winfield (I loved this guy). Lavar Arrington if you prefer though.
12- Andrew Luck
13- Dan Marino
17- Charlie Ward?
18- Archie Manning
27- Irving Fryar
29- Curtis Martin
30- Mike Rozier
36- Chris Spielmann
43- Antonio Langham
52- Ray Lewis
70- Sam Huff (had to get a WVU guy in here).
77- Jake Long
78- Anthony Munoz (did he wear this in college?)
79- Bill Fralic
86- Courtney Brown? (Damn good in college).
90- Steve Emtman 
93- Aundray Bruce (I think he wore this at Auburn).
96- Cortez Kennedy

What number did guys like Derrick Thomas and Cornelius Bennett wear at Alabama?  I can’t remember.

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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2018, 08:37:46 AM »
A few more.

4- Champ Bailey
97- Cornelius Bennett
98- Lawrence Taylor
99- Hugh Green

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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2018, 09:20:07 AM »
4 Jamelle Holieway
5 Michael Crabtree (since some people want to wipe Bush off the books)
29 Rickey Dixon
40 Luke Kuechly
43 Terrell Farley
60 Tommy Nobis
71 Merlin Olsen

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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2018, 01:15:51 PM »
See, this always happens - we get guys like Dan Marino and Curtis Martin on these COLLEGE lists, and it becomes an NFL list.

Yes, Marino and Martin were very good in college.  But they made like one fringe All-American team for one year.  Yes, they went on to have Hall of Fame NFL careers, but in this exercise, that is meaningless!

Perfect illustration:  Look at 51 and 52.  
Everybody knows Ray Lewis.  HOF NFL LB.  Great at Miami, small, fast, was an AA one year.  But his college resume is dwarfed by a less-known LB in the same state:  Brandon Spikes.  Hell, even Takeo Spikes of Auburn is probably better known.  But Brandon Spikes was a 3x AA at Florida.  So if he and Ray Lewis had the same jersey number, for this exercise, Spikes should make the list.  

Just for future reference.  We have Marino and Martin on the list, and they'll stay on it, until they're replaced by someone better (college considerations only).
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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2018, 01:23:41 PM »
To back up my point:  Anthony Munoz doesn't belong on any all-time greats college football lists.  He was hurt half the time and made zero all-american teams.  This is a college list.  No Tom Brady, no Joe Montana.  
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Re: All Time Best Numbers
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2018, 01:39:54 PM »
Keep posting suggestions, and we'll keep the updated list as the first 1-99 that was my post.  I changed a few and added a few old-timers.
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« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2018, 02:03:10 PM »
Kris, sorry, Sam Huff wore 75 at WVU.  He ain't replacing Orlando Pace.  
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« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2018, 02:08:33 PM »
Another NCAA > NFL self edit example:  Michael Irvin had a very strong college career....but it doesn't come close to DE David Pollock's of UGA.  Yes, he's now the talking head on ESPN Gameday and Irvin is an NFL HOFer, but that doesn't matter for this list.  
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