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bamajoe

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UT football
« on: October 21, 2018, 07:23:17 AM »
IMHO Tennessee finally has a solid coach and are on the way back to good football. This team although lacking big time in talent is disciplined and tough. They won't win many games this year but Pruitt is putting them through basic training something like Coach Bryant did at Texas A&M IN 1954 and Coach Saban did at Alabama in 2007. Look out in two years.
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Re: UT football
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2018, 08:21:45 AM »
If they can upgrade talent and the OL, they will get back to ten win seasons I think.

That however is an IF.  Florida appears to be more or less back already and Georgia has been recruiting like crazy.

While recruiting isn't everything obviously, it's a big start, and the Vols need to start showing up in the Top Ten.
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Re: UT football
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2018, 08:41:18 AM »
It doesn't matter how much you upgrade your talent if you don't have the best man running the offense at QB.


Pruitt doesn't and I'll just leave it at that without all the whys and what fors because if you've watched the games you should already know if you know anything about football.
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Re: UT football
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2018, 09:50:44 AM »
I imagine the OC has something to do with how the offense works.

And I probably don't know much about football compared to any of these coaches, not much at all.

Some of the Ohio State fans sound today like Urban should be fired.
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2018, 11:17:21 AM »
I don't believe this is true. You don't have to have a stud qb to have a successful team. It helps but not a requirement; see Alabama before Tua. If you have a solid team that works together and all the pieces fit you can have a very good team.
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Re: UT football
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2018, 04:53:03 PM »
Quote from: bamajoe on October 21, 2018, 11:17:21 AM
I don't believe this is true. You don't have to have a stud qb to have a successful team. It helps but not a requirement; see Alabama before Tua. If you have a solid team that works together and all the pieces fit you can have a very good team.
Georgia was kicking BAMA's ass last year until TUA came in.  This year Saban has changed his offense completely for him.
That shows how important the QB position is. 
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Re: UT football
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2018, 07:42:54 PM »
Even if Alabama had not beaten Georgia, Alabama was still good enough to reach the Championship game without a world beater at qb. In fact they won the NC four times and almost a fifth without a Tua at qb. What I said about not requiring a great qb to have a successful team stands. 
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Re: UT football
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2018, 04:46:10 AM »
That's not exactly a great example, though.  

Oh, you don't need a great QB....yeah, not if you have the best RB, best OL, and best defense.  You're right.  If you have all of that, who cares about the QB?!??

But here in reality, where having all of those things aren't possible, THEN what say you?
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Re: UT football
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2018, 07:50:25 AM »
OL and DL are the key to winning football. Tennessee ignored the OL for a long time. It shows.
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Re: UT football
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2018, 08:15:45 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 22, 2018, 07:50:25 AM
OL and DL are the key to winning football. Tennessee ignored the OL for a long time. It shows.
You sound like that other guy who posted this over and over and over about how Jones schemed OL.
It's amazing.
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Re: UT football
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2018, 10:58:37 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 22, 2018, 04:46:10 AM
That's not exactly a great example, though.  

Oh, you don't need a great QB....yeah, not if you have the best RB, best OL, and best defense.  You're right.  If you have all of that, who cares about the QB?!??

But here in reality, where having all of those things aren't possible, THEN what say you?
it's the best example because it shows not only can you be good without a great qb, you can be outright dominant with marginal qb's. is everyone going to be able to achieve that? no, certainly not. but the argument was it couldn't be done. and that proven patently false. you can have very good teams without a great qb.
lsu is another example.
nd, texas, uf all bouncing back this year without world beater qb's, psu last year, etc.
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Re: UT football
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2018, 11:38:57 AM »
A great QB can make a mediocre-decent team into a top ten team, but they usually drop a couple of games.

A mediocre QB can make a great team into a top ten team that usually drops a couple of games.

I'd rather have a great OL and good RBs and a serviceable QB than any other combination.

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Re: UT football
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2018, 02:21:40 PM »
never understood people trying to make AJ McCarron a marginal QB, or a game manager.  The guy was just good.  
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2018, 03:11:04 PM »
He became good.  He was very much a game manager in 2011 when they won the NC.  But his JR and SR years, he was asked to win games, not merely avoid losing them.
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