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Week 7
« on: October 11, 2021, 02:06:25 PM »
#25 Texas  -5.5 v #12 OSU.  OSU doesn't have their usual firepower this year but a pretty good D.  I like UT in this one.
Baylor -4.5 v #19 BYU.  Don't have a clue about this one.  
Texas Tech -16.5 v Kansas.  TT is 4-2 and looking improved this year.  Kansas will stay in the cellar.
ISU -6.5 v KSU.  Farmageddon.  Neither team looking especially good.  I think the line looks about right.
#4 OU -11.5 v TCU.  Frogs are always tough.  Picking the Sooners.

Race for the Big 12 could go a lot of different ways this weekend.

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Re: Week 7
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2021, 02:35:23 PM »
Are you predicting SU or ATS?

I think that Texas-FoSu depends on how the Horns respond to adversity.  They've got to be careful not to let Saturday's loss turn into two losses.

TCU is tough.  The Frogs don't own us, but they usually play us tough.  11.5 is a lot for the Sooners to give up when they have only covered the spread once this season.

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Re: Week 7
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2021, 03:15:17 PM »
SU.  I am not a gambler and don't really care about the points.  BTW, the Sooners have covered twice this season against WCU and UT.  Maybe you weren't counting the FCS team.  
UT has a good history in games after the RRS and I just don't think OSU can hang with them offensively.  I am not good at predictions, though.
Who are you picking as a starter this week, Rattler or Williams?

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Re: Week 7
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2021, 05:01:50 PM »
SU.  I am not a gambler and don't really care about the points.  BTW, the Sooners have covered twice this season against WCU and UT.  Maybe you weren't counting the FCS team. 
UT has a good history in games after the RRS and I just don't think OSU can hang with them offensively.  I am not good at predictions, though.
Who are you picking as a starter this week, Rattler or Williams?
Probably Rattler but I hope for Williams.  I think Riley is in a bit of a pickle, as I believe that the players' choice is Williams.
I think that the upside is greater with Williams.
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Re: Week 7
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2021, 12:40:05 PM »
I also think he goes with Williams.  I think Rattler's skill set would do well against TCU but I think the crowd reaction would be really negative if he showed up on the first series.  
I see Patterson said they are preparing for Williams.

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Re: Week 7
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2021, 02:03:51 PM »
A story out of Norman today--by John Hoover, I think--says that Williams is practicing with the 1s, Rattler with the 2s.
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Re: Week 7
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2021, 10:51:14 AM »
This is definitely a developing story of interest. No question Rattler has struggled. I'm just wondering how much Williams' success was due to (a) Texas not preparing for him and primarily (b) Texas having a terrible run defense.

My concern is that when there's a game tape on him, the true freshman will suddenly have to diagnose collegiate defenses of greater complexity (like Texas should have switched on). What happens if this was one game Sooner magic?

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Re: Week 7
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2021, 01:32:34 PM »
This is definitely a developing story of interest. No question Rattler has struggled. I'm just wondering how much Williams' success was due to (a) Texas not preparing for him and primarily (b) Texas having a terrible run defense.

My concern is that when there's a game tape on him, the true freshman will suddenly have to diagnose collegiate defenses of greater complexity (like Texas should have switched on). What happens if this was one game Sooner magic?
All good points, Mr. T.
Fortunately, for the next few games, we are not going up against any Doomsday Defenses.
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Re: Week 7
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2021, 01:51:24 PM »
Both QB's are available and Riley has said both will play "a bunch".  He mentioned the snaps may be 50-50.  
More important than the QB play was OU playing better on the OL and DL in the second half.  This has been a pattern on the OL for the past few years, they don't really gel until the Texas game, then play well the rest of the season.

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Re: Week 7
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2021, 03:02:50 PM »
Mr. T (or any Horn), how do you see the OSU/UT game playing out?

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Re: Week 7
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2021, 03:23:41 PM »
Horns win

hopefully without the 2nd half nap
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Re: Week 7
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2021, 03:41:39 PM »
Mr. T (or any Horn), how do you see the OSU/UT game playing out?
Right now, I think the Texas offense is legit. They can pour points on. Their trajectory is limitless right now, but the younger players will have to get more comfortable. They're beginning to understand why the offense works the way it does.

The defense is critically flawed. The run stop, which should have been an overall team strength, just has to improve. Runner aren't out-foxing the defense. The players just can't get them on the ground. Tackling is borne from fundamentals, which is borne from being sure of your job. Too many players are hesitating before doing leading to weak tackling. Some senior players are going to have to give way to younger talent.

I have a hard time, though, seeing how oSu will score enough points to keep up. Their offense isn't particularly good at any one thing. Pressure (and it doesn't have to be extravagant pressure) on Sanders makes him inexplicably just throw the ball to the defense. His tendency to do this will be the difference between Texas winning by a good bit or by a lot.

Of course, they could always replace their starting QB mid-game. That seems to be the recipe for scoring points on Texas.

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Re: Week 7
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2021, 04:06:47 PM »
Ive got a slightly different take on our defense

Our defense played very well in the first half but by late in the third qtr the run defense failed on a large scale

My feeling is that this was the result our offense having too many 3 and outs in a short period of time

this resulted in overtaxing our defense

in short they were gassed

and it wasnt only our tackling that fell off

our def backs just werent quick enough 

anyway not taking anything away from OUs effort which was top notch
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Re: Week 7
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2021, 06:44:16 PM »
Both QB's are available and Riley has said both will play "a bunch".  He mentioned the snaps may be 50-50. 
More important than the QB play was OU playing better on the OL and DL in the second half.  This has been a pattern on the OL for the past few years, they don't really gel until the Texas game, then play well the rest of the season.
Yep.  Improvement on the OL accounts for much of the improvement in the rushing game too.
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