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Re: Week 12
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2021, 10:26:38 AM »
I'm about 95% certain Georgia will win the SEC CCG.

So if your team could do us all a favor and just pound the Tide, that would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance! :)

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Re: Week 12
« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2021, 04:53:04 PM »
The Sooners win 28-21 over the BiaBs.  How can a 10-1 team be so disappointing? Not getting my hopes up for next week.

Wow, Texas.  SMH.

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Re: Week 12
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2021, 07:15:55 PM »
The Sooners' OC needs to have a head coach telling him to run the ball better and more often.  Those 3-incomple-passes 3-and-outs were almost killers today.

I have no confidence that the Sooners will do well in Stillwater After Dark next week.  I won't be surprised if they win, but I have no expectation of that.

Nebraska had a tough finish.  Down 35-28, they had 1st and 10 at the Wisky 11 with a minute to go.  The sequence went like this.  Holding, now 1st and 20 from the 21.  Incomplete pass, not even close, 2nd and 20 from the 21.  Time out.  Incomplete pass, not even close, 3rd and 20 from the 21.  Time out.  Incomplete pass, not even close, 4th and 20 from the 21.  Time out.  Incomplete pass into double coverage.

It's as if every play was just a 21-yard Hail Mary pass.  Martinez fell back in the face of a tremendous pass rush and launched the ball downfield every time, including the incompletion on the first play that was negated by the holding call.  They could have discussed the bus ride home during those time-outs for all the play-calling showed.

Texas--WTH?
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2021, 07:32:51 PM »
Nebraska had a tough finish.  Down 35-28, they had 1st and 10 at the Wisky 11 with a minute to go.  The sequence went like this.  Holding, now 1st and 20 from the 21.  Incomplete pass, not even close, 2nd and 20 from the 21.  Time out.  Incomplete pass, not even close, 3rd and 20 from the 21.  Time out.  Incomplete pass, not even close, 4th and 20 from the 21.  Time out.  Incomplete pass into double coverage.

It's as if every play was just a 21-yard Hail Mary pass.  Martinez fell back in the face of a tremendous pass rush and launched the ball downfield every time, including the incompletion on the first play that was negated by the holding call.  They could have discussed the bus ride home during those time-outs for all the play-calling showed.

and I really don't like blaming refs, but on 4th and 20 the pass to the 1 was obviously pass interference
shoot, give em the ball on the 1 with a few seconds left and let the Huskers beef it themselves, it's almost assured
if they do score, the Huskers have a GREAT chance to beef it in OT
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2021, 07:49:38 PM »
I didn't see it in replay, but live I didn't catch any DPI.  There were 2 or 3 badgers right there when the ball arrived.

Yes, it's all very different if Nebraska had been sitting there with 1st and goal at the 1.  They still had a TO, so they probably could have gotten 2 plays off.

Still, the play-calling in that sequence seemed very uncreative.  And impatient.  There was enough time for four plays, even if a couple of them didn't get out of bounds, as the Huskers had 3 TOs.  Yet every play-call was for a TD pass.  No screens or draws to take advantage of the pass rush.  No RPO.  No short plays to get closer to the goal line.  Just drop back in the face of the rush and launch the ball downfield, hoping for a TD.

My critique is probably not welcome.  But I too am frustrated by Nebraska's season.  The Huskers are my favorite program after the Sooners, so it has not been enjoyable to watch them play just well enough to lose close games to good teams all season.
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #33 on: November 20, 2021, 08:34:21 PM »
I'm obviously biased, but will give the benefit of the doubt to the ref

caught it live, confirmed obviously in replay

Coach Frost obviously frustrated, not sure if he saw it live or was told by an assistant from replay

many calls good and bad in a 60 minute game, but as I said, that call would just give Nebraska the opportunity to extend the game, it wouldn't give them a great advantage.

make the right call and alloew the game to be decided by the next few plays or overtime
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #34 on: November 20, 2021, 09:07:07 PM »
I'm about 95% certain Georgia will win the SEC CCG.

So if your team could do us all a favor and just pound the Tide, that would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance! :)

I saw an early line that had UGA favored by one point.  I don't think this will be an easy game at all.  But I also think if UGA has nc aspirations they need to win it.

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Re: Week 12
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2021, 09:21:22 PM »
I'd guess the spread will be more than 1 point
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2021, 09:44:10 PM »
I've now heard two national radio guys assert that Alabama will be in the CFP unless they are blown out by Georgia.

That might be correct, but that doesn't make it right.
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2021, 09:47:32 PM »
I'm obviously biased, but will give the benefit of the doubt to the ref

caught it live, confirmed obviously in replay

Coach Frost obviously frustrated, not sure if he saw it live or was told by an assistant from replay

many calls good and bad in a 60 minute game, but as I said, that call would just give Nebraska the opportunity to extend the game, it wouldn't give them a great advantage.

make the right call and alloew the game to be decided by the next few plays or overtime
A frustrating situation, definitely.  A bad call at the end of a close game is really damaging because there's no time left for the team that got negatively affected to overcome the zebras' mistake.
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2021, 10:11:49 PM »
yup, no chance for a make-up call by the guilty crew
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2021, 10:12:49 PM »
I've now heard two national radio guys assert that Alabama will be in the CFP unless they are blown out by Georgia.

That might be correct, but that doesn't make it right.
it's not correct and it's not right
but, Oregon getting an ass whoopin could help it be correct
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2021, 11:43:38 PM »
Yep.  Two potential 1-loss conference champions--Oregon and Wake Forest--went down today.  Three if you count Michigan State, but once Michigan State beat Michigan the B1G was only going to have one 1-loss team (at the most) emerge.

So, there will be the unbeaten SEC champ and the 1-loss B1G champ (unless Wisconsin wins the CCG).  There go 2 slots in the CFP.

Then there will be as many as 4 other candidates: 1-loss Notre Dame, a 1-loss Big 12 champ (I'd bet on FoSu if I had to bet), unbeaten Cincinnati, and 2-loss Alabama.
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2021, 07:44:22 AM »
Alabama has not looked like "Alabama" all year.  If they beat UGA, OK, but if not, NO.

We have too many one loss teams at this point who are conference champs, or could be.  The ACC and Pac are basically out.  Mayhem in the Big Ten could knock them out but to me Ohio State looks really good.  Oklahoma State is looking very good.  That could change.

 

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