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Re: Week 12
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2021, 03:19:40 PM »
plenty of college football fans that don't care about the NFL
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2021, 03:24:29 PM »
Nick Saban.
Atlanta is 200 miles from Tuscaloosa
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2021, 03:50:36 PM »
plenty of college football fans that don't care about the NFL

Not enough for any college program to bother.

Atlanta is 200 miles from Tuscaloosa

Nope, it's 202.

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Re: Week 12
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2021, 06:15:45 PM »

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Re: Week 12
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2021, 02:44:39 PM »
UGA plays some team from Charleston Southern this week, I think I have heard of them.  I'm reminded of the tradition of scheduling a pastry before the Big Rivalry Game with .... Georgia Tech, who is not much of a rival these days of course.  CSU might give Tech a decent game.  Tech has a number of close losses this season, including to NIU and they play at Notre Dame this weekend.

It amsued me.

I've been looking at tickets to the UGA-Tech game but they are pricey.


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Re: Week 12
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2021, 04:45:06 PM »
I'm really glad that Texas doesn't play a 1-AA team.

I mean, this year specifically, it might be a good thing.

But in general, I'd be pretty angry with our administration if they scheduled one.  I sure hope we don't adopt the SEC's crappy FCS scheduling traditions after we join.

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Re: Week 12
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2021, 05:46:37 PM »
I think the CFP committee was fully prepared to leave an undefeated OU out of the playoff foursome due to their struggles playing Big 12 teams. Obviously that's not relevant any longer, but I believe it demonstrates the national perception of the Big 12. 
The only way I see to overcome that is for the Big 12 teams to schedule and win some nationally relevant OOC games. Now it takes two parties to agree, but the Big 12 should put everything they have towards doing so. 
Fair or not, the SEC doesn't have that problem. They're free to schedule whomever they wish, and simply stand on the "we had to play in the SEC" platform at the end.

But yeah, we only get 12 games per season. I look forward to them (even if Texas currently sucks donkey nards). Deliberately wasting one for no reason is a letdown.

Keep in mind, there can be good reasons for not scheduling all world beaters. Recruiting proximity, traditions, and the ability for the "lesser" school to feature the trip on their recruiting pitches are all acceptable.

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Re: Week 12
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2021, 05:54:43 PM »
I think the CFP committee was fully prepared to leave an undefeated OU out of the playoff foursome due to their struggles playing Big 12 teams. Obviously that's not relevant any longer, but I believe it demonstrates the national perception of the Big 12.
The only way I see to overcome that is for the Big 12 teams to schedule and win some nationally relevant OOC games. Now it takes two parties to agree, but the Big 12 should put everything they have towards doing so.
Fair or not, the SEC doesn't have that problem. They're free to schedule whomever they wish, and simply stand on the "we had to play in the SEC" platform at the end.

But yeah, we only get 12 games per season. I look forward to them (even if Texas currently sucks donkey nards). Deliberately wasting one for no reason is a letdown.

Keep in mind, there can be good reasons for not scheduling all world beaters. Recruiting proximity, traditions, and the ability for the "lesser" school to feature the trip on their recruiting pitches are all acceptable.

I think we all know exactly why the SEC has its annual FCS Cupcake weekend.  And it has worked out well for them.  As you say, they're given a pass for it.

I'm speaking as a fan of football when I say, I'd rather see my team NOT schedule FCS teams, than see my team game the system the way the SEC has for so many years, even if it means gaining an advantage when it comes to poll rankings and selection committee perception.

Also, I don't think the committee was going to leave out an undefeated OU.  But they certainly won't give a 1-loss (or more) OU all that much consideration.




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Re: Week 12
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2021, 07:08:07 PM »
I'm pretty confident that a 13-0 OU would have gotten in.

Apparently, Alabama will get in even with a loss to Georgia in the SEC CCG.

Bama is obviously THE dominant program of the past 12-15 years, and nobody else is even close.  Not even Clemson.

But this year's Bama team has not looked like world-beaters and--IMO--does not deserve to be ranked #2 just because it has been so great for so much of the past decade-plus, and, with 2 losses, would not deserve to go to the CFP if there's a 1-loss P5 conference champion that is left out.

I say that knowing that OU has gotten the benefit of the doubt as a 1-loss CFP selectee.

I wish we were using the old BCS formula rather than the Committee to select and rank-order the teams.

Every week the chairman trots out and makes stuff up about why the Committee voted as it did.  And the rationales change from week to week, frequently contradicting themselves.
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2021, 07:18:23 PM »
I certainly agree that a 2-loss Alabama would have no business in the CFP. 

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Re: Week 12
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2021, 07:21:09 PM »
Parts of the sports media blogosphere are acting like it's a done deal so long as the hypothetical loss to Georgia is not a blowout.

I keep remembering all those arguments for a playoff that were based on "let it be decided on the field."  ~???
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Re: Week 12
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2021, 07:26:57 PM »
Parts of the sports media blogosphere are acting like it's a done deal so long as the hypothetical loss to Georgia is not a blowout.

I keep remembering all those arguments for a playoff that were based on "let it be decided on the field."  ~???
Let it be decided on the field-- unless it conflicts with our preconceived notions.  Then, let it be decided by humans with their inherent biases.

Even by the "eyeball test" Alabama clearly doesn't look the part this year.  Close calls against poor teams.  A loss to an average team.  This is not the Alabama of years past.  And that's not a knock on them, it's impossible to maintain the level they've been at forever.  And I'm sure as long as Saban is there, they'll get right back to it in short order.

But THIS year?  No.  This is not the same Alabama.

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Re: Week 12
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2021, 08:50:33 AM »
I can see a potential argument for including a team that lost a CG, but it should be rare, and their ONLY loss, not two.

And as noted, Bama has not really looked overwhelming even in their wins, aside from NMSU.

They don't run the ball very well, and I hear that can be important.  Shirley we will have some more deserving one loss teams, and even Cincy.  

 

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