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CharleyHorse46

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« Reply #1232 on: December 21, 2018, 10:07:47 AM »
I have a long-drawn out “testimony” I could share sometime about how I became a Ford man and why I resisted being a Ford man for so long.
I know you’ve all been waiting patiently to here this.
I’ll tell it in chapters so it won’t be TL ; DR

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« Reply #1233 on: December 21, 2018, 10:13:28 AM »
Ch 1 - My Mopar Upbringing 

My dad was a proud Mopar man so I was too. We knew Chrysler made the coolest, fastest, best cars.  Richard Petty proved it.

But every six weeks something would go wrong on my 6 year-old Duster with with 80,000 miles.  I can’t tell you how many voltage regulators I replaced.  Despite repairs and replacements the power steering unit leaked like a sieve.  Replacing the water pump was an annual event.  The thermostat about every six months.

I figured everybody had to tinker constantly to keep their cars running.  Then my brother got a Toyota.

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« Reply #1234 on: December 21, 2018, 10:19:29 AM »
Ch 2 - My Drug Running Brother

My brother used to run weed up from Mexico every weekend.  In 1978 a Mexican drug lord gave him a 1974 4x4 Toyota pickup with a camper shell.

Between 500 to 1000 miles a week.  Sometimes he had to cut across country, ford creeks, knock down fences.  He abused that truck for 8 years.

But unlike my Mopars, it didn’t break down on him.  The one time the starter went out and he got tired of starting it with a screwdriver, he took it out and replaced the copper bolts for like 78 cents.  Otherwise it was just gas, tires and oil for 300,000 miles.

Extraordinary.  I made a note to buy a Toyota.

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« Reply #1235 on: December 21, 2018, 10:26:07 AM »
Ch 3 - My Toyota Years

In 1986 I bought a brand new Toyota pickup.  Buying foreign cars in the 1980s was still kind of a scandalous thing to do.  It was the Reagan years and there was a big propaganda push to “Buy American.”  Only hippies, liberals and immigrants bought foreign cars.  As a matter of fact once I had it, lots of girls wanted to go out with me because they just assumed that if I had a Toyota pickup I must have weed.

Being a 20 something with a pickup, I spent most of my weekends helping my friends move.  

But I drove that truck for 10 years and 180,000 before I sold it.  Other than a front end alignment and a new clutch, it was nothing but gas, tires and oil.  

Very reliable.

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« Reply #1236 on: December 21, 2018, 10:29:42 AM »
Ch 4 - The 90s.

I was very poor in the 90s.  The missus and I had kids.  She wanted to be a stay at home mom.  I worked like a dog.

When we needed cars I couldn’t afford Toyotas anymore because even conservative Republicans were buying foreign cars.  I had to buy American simply because their used car demand was negligible and you could get them for about half the price of a foreign car.

I opted for GM because I had done the Mopar thing and I wasn’t about to drive a Ford.

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« Reply #1237 on: December 21, 2018, 10:33:39 AM »
Ch 5  - My Ford Stigma

In the 1970s Ford sold Pintos that blew up.  In the 80s it was cars that would stall in traffic or jump out of park.  In the 90s it was Explorers with bad tires that would flip a high speeds.

Seemed to me Ford was doing what the guy on Fight Club talked about.  They were comparing the costs of fixing a problem versus the cost of settling civil suits.

I didn’t want to buy a vehicle made by people who valued the lives of their customers so flippantly.

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« Reply #1238 on: December 21, 2018, 10:38:16 AM »
Ch 6 - My GM years

From 1994 through 2016, I bought and drive GM vehicles with very few exceptions.

Some were great.  Others, belonging to the same class and having been built on the same assembly line were crap.

Some I owned 7 or 8 years with nary a problem.  Others were a pain in the ass.

My oldest son became a GM enthusiast.  He owns 4 OBS Chevy trucks and loves them but ironically he helped turn me onto Ford.

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« Reply #1239 on: December 21, 2018, 10:49:29 AM »
Ch 7 Coming Round to Ford

In 2008 when the US had to bail out the auto industry, I kind of liked the way Ford refused a handout.

Years later I started watching “Alaska State Troopers” and I was amazed and impressed by the intrepid endurability of their Ford Crown Vics.

Then my oldest son got a job with Direct TV.  They gave him a 10 year old Ford van with 250,000 miles and sent him every day from Leander to places like Bastrop, LaGrange, Columbus and Katy.

The kid drove the van like a mofo.  Down dirt roads to rural homes.  Through the woods to even more rural homes.  Every evening he’d sit and wonder why the OBS Chevys he drove required so much loving maintenance while this damn Ford van just went and went and went.

The final straw was an overheating problem with my last GM vehicle.  I replaced the radiator, hoses, water pump, thermostat, everything- nothing worked.  But there was one wickedly placed bolt on the thermostat housing that could only be unscrewed a mm at a time.  About the 50th I put it back in and it still overheated I said that’s it.  Screw GM.

I bought 3 Fords in the fall of 2016 and haven’t been this happy since I had my Toyota truck.

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« Reply #1240 on: December 21, 2018, 10:53:18 AM »
BTW, I don’t drive trucks myself but my oldest son who still masochistically tinkers with Chevy OBS trucks, gets to drive a variety of vehicles daily on his job.  He swears the F250 is the best.  Especially with vinyl flooring.  He’s at the age where he still spills Dr Peppers.

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« Reply #1241 on: December 21, 2018, 12:20:15 PM »
What’s an OBS GM?  Are you talking about the 90s models that predate OBDII?  


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« Reply #1242 on: December 21, 2018, 12:30:50 PM »
The F150 Supercrew has a lot more room in the back seat than the GM or Ram equivalents, and that was another major consideration.  This vehicle will have to replace an SUV on long haul towing trips, and that means the kids and the dog (very large black lab mix) are all inside.  That was easy with an SUV, but with a pickup we needed the maximum amount of interior cabin space we could get.
The Ford does indeed have a much better crew cab, which was also one of the reasons why I bought it. The Ram is ok, not great, and the GMs of the era was just stupid.  You had to contort your body to get out of the backseat. 
Another plus for the Ford was that you could still get one with a full size 6.5’ bed.  
When I decided to get rid of the Ford I could buy a 4x4 Ram SLT for $33k. This is essentially the equivalent of an xlt Ford. The best price I could manage on the Ford was $42k. This was late 2016. I paid 36k plus ttl in 2012 for my first Ford. 

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« Reply #1243 on: December 21, 2018, 01:09:19 PM »
OBS - old body style circa ‘88 - ‘98

Nothin to do with onboard diagnostics

Two different monkeys

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« Reply #1244 on: December 21, 2018, 01:14:45 PM »
Gig em, you wouldn’t happen to live up near Wichita Falls would you?

I travel all over the state and the WF area amazes me b/c RAMS outnumber all other makes of trucks about 14 to 1.

It’s weird.

Course north Texas is weird so it’s like a David Lynch movie.  It’s all odd but nothing’s surprising.

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« Reply #1245 on: December 21, 2018, 01:25:24 PM »
Never been to witcita falls. 

I live in Brazoria, Tx, which is a small town on the Brazos river south of Houston that Stephen F Austin himself named. 

In fact, I know the present owners of the Perry Ranch where SFA was originally buried.  The Perry’s are descendants of Emily Perry, who was Stephen Austin’s sister. 


 

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