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Topic: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.

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FearlessF

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« Reply #1218 on: December 19, 2018, 10:16:41 AM »
I have the 5.3 in my Silverado double cab

with gas less then $2, I wish I'd have went with the big block

I get over 20 mpg on the highway
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« Reply #1219 on: December 19, 2018, 10:28:41 AM »
I have the 5.3 in my Tahoe as well.  I like it, it's been a great engine for that vehicle.

But the twin turbo 3.5L in my F150 Supercrew blows it away on speed, mileage, and towing capability.  It's an awesome engine.

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« Reply #1220 on: December 19, 2018, 04:06:21 PM »
I owned a 2012 F150 4x4 with the eco boost. It was indeed a powerful motor but the gas mileage was nothing like some people claim. I never averaged more than 15-16 and the truck was by far the biggest pos I ever owned. I sold it and bought a Ram with the ecodisel. This is a 3 liter v6. It’s a great truck and gets awesome mileage but it isn’t as fast as my old ford. I get upwards of 26-28 mpg on the hwy and about 20 in the city. I get better mileage with my Ram towing my sxs or boat than my Ford got empty.
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« Reply #1221 on: December 19, 2018, 06:10:16 PM »
Those first-gen ecoboosts had a lot of problems. The 2015 and later are really solid.  As always YMMV.

And it's certainly not going to get the kind of mileage a diesel gets, but it's a lot better than my V8 gasser was.  The Tahoe never did better than 20 on the highway and maybe 12 in the city.  The F150 gets no worse than 15 in the city and 25+ on the highway. But ultimately, I didn't buy it for mileage.  That's just a small bonus.


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« Reply #1222 on: December 19, 2018, 09:38:37 PM »
The motor was fine, the truck itself was a POS. I did have to change the plugs out at like 60000 miles. 

I still own an F250 and F350. 

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« Reply #1223 on: December 20, 2018, 09:53:51 AM »
Cool.  The Tahoe is absolutely bullet-proof, it's sitting at around 175K miles and aside from routine maintenance, the only thing that's had an issue is the A/C unit which I had to get serviced at 100K.

So far all good with the F150.  Our worst car, sadly, is my i s c & a aggie wife's Toyota convertible.  After hearing so many people swear by Toyota I had high hopes for that car, but it's been an electrical nightmare since the day we bought it.  The quality and reliability aren't anywhere close to that of her Honda accord that we sold in order to get the Toyota.  I learned my lesson, never again with Toyota.

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« Reply #1224 on: December 20, 2018, 10:12:31 AM »
I have a long-drawn out “testimony” I could share sometime about how I became a Ford man and why I resisted being a Ford man for so long.

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« Reply #1225 on: December 20, 2018, 11:47:41 AM »
I have nothing against any of the auto manufacturers.  Well, except Toyota, screw those guys.

I've always bought what I liked, what fit my needs, and what fit my budget, at any given time.  I don't get wrapped up in the debates over the various manufacturers.  I'm not a "Calvin pissing on Ford or Chevy" kind of guy.

That said, I'm really loving my F150 for the time being, but I'm also happy to keep my Chevy Tahoe around.  

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« Reply #1226 on: December 20, 2018, 12:01:07 PM »
I was a GM/Chevy man most of my life but I didn't like the styling on the late '00 models and I wanted what was promised in the eco-boost.  

I sold my '03 Z71 ext cab in '12 at 90K mostly trouble free miles and bought a new 4x4 XLT F150 with the 3.5 EcoBoost.  It was a great truck until I hit about 50K miles.  I had to replace the power steering, which is really electric steering these days, for almost $2K out of pocket.  Then the A/C went out, another almost $2k out of pocket.  Then a whole bunch of other annoying small things, like the drivers seat ripping at only 50K miles.  I've come to the conclusion that the F150 is a suburbanite truck and my country life was just too hard on it.  I still have an F250 for my business (only 20K miles so jury's still out) and a F350 Diesel ('04 model stick shift!).  I might buy another Ford F150, because it was a great truck minus the problems, but I'd have to really hate the other 4 majors (GM, Dodge, Nissan, Toyota).  I will tell you this:  the Ram with the coil springs is a much better ride but won't tow nearly as well as the F150 with the EB.  

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« Reply #1227 on: December 20, 2018, 04:54:34 PM »
Yeah, ok.  So there's a lot of personal preference stuff here, but that's the way these discussions go, so...

1) I actually prefer the exterior styling on the GM pickups over the Ford I bought.  I like the squared out exterior molding details over the more rounded Ford.  I don't dislike my Ford, I'm growing used to it, but the exteriors on the GMs are nicer IMO.  This excludes what I've seen as previews of the new 2020 Chevy Silverado, which looks hideous.

2) I also prefer the interior styling on the GM base trim.  The Ford base trim is horrific and cheap-looking.  And I absolutely loathe the "Super Duty" injection-molded plastic all over the F250s.   Just awful.  In my opinion of course.

HOWEVER, when you get up to King Ranch, Limited, and Platinum trim packages, then I like Ford's trim over GM higher-end trim, including the GMC Denali (which I've always loved).  Which is one reason why I bought the Platinum F150, its trim was my favorite of them all.

3) I don't like the styling on current Rams at all.  I didn't give them a second thought. I don't like their interiors, and I really don't like their exteriors.  Aside from that, they don't have towing capability that I want outside of diesel, and for plenty of my own reasons I don't want diesel.

4) I won't buy a Toyota of any kind ever again. I don't care how many people tell me they make great trucks.  They told me the same thing about Toyota cars, and the one I currently own is a gigantic POS.  Lesson learned.  Never again.  If Honda made a pickup truck I'd definitely give it a look, though.  Best car I've ever owned was the Honda Accord.  

5) I'm not sure what you thought was "promised" in an ecoboost?  I guess the name was misleading?  I didn't expect diesel-like mileage (although it's certainly better than the V8 gassers it competes with in its class), but what I actually did receive was really good torque across a very broad range of the power band, which is awesome for towing.  Again it's not a diesel, it's not supposed to be, but it's a great combination of features and benefits and most closely aligned to what I wanted.  


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« Reply #1228 on: December 20, 2018, 10:56:07 PM »
I expected to get at least more than 15-16 mpg. I expected not to have major mechanical problems at 50-60k miles. 


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« Reply #1229 on: December 20, 2018, 11:15:17 PM »
Sounds like you got a lemon.  Like I said, my Toyota is a complete piece of crap.  Lots of folks love them.  I loathe it.

Better luck next time I suppose.

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« Reply #1230 on: December 20, 2018, 11:28:32 PM »
Funny thing is I know lots of folks that have them with no problems. I loved the form factor. The Rams are very nice as well, and much cheaper. I bought my eco diesel for cheaper than some xlt F150s loaded. 

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« Reply #1231 on: December 21, 2018, 09:03:10 AM »
The F150 Supercrew has a lot more room in the back seat than the GM or Ram equivalents, and that was another major consideration.  This vehicle will have to replace an SUV on long haul towing trips, and that means the kids and the dog (very large black lab mix) are all inside.  That was easy with an SUV, but with a pickup we needed the maximum amount of interior cabin space we could get.


 

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