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FearlessF · « **Reply #1036 on:** November 18, 2018, 03:45:16 PM »

Horns will beat the Hawks

Sooners will beat the Mountaineers

glorious rematch

Sooner Magic

Gigem · « **Reply #1037 on:** November 18, 2018, 04:18:26 PM »

I just caught the tail end of the Texans and Redskins. I wasn’t aware that Colt McCoy was still playing but I guess he got in the game at the end for some reason. I know y’all don’t think an Aggie can root for a longhorn but I was sure rooting for colt to pull it off. Unfortunately he wasn’t able to make it happen but I’m glad he’s still in there hanging on, he was one of my all time favorite college players even though he was wearing the wrong colors.

CharleyHorse46 · « **Reply #1038 on:** November 18, 2018, 04:55:49 PM »

Thank you, gigem. I believe it.

I think college football fans root for players of rivals more often than most people would imagine or admit to.

Sometimes players that pissed me off in college become a favorite in the NFL. Like Wes freaking Welker.

I’ve rooted for Sam Bradford, I’ve hoped for the best for Manziel, I love that damned Martellus Bennett.

I could go on but I won’t.

CharleyHorse46 · « **Reply #1039 on:** November 18, 2018, 04:58:59 PM »

I am anxious to see if OU can make any stops against WIll Grier and the WVU offense. It wouldn’t surprise me if they score on every possession.

I don’t think that bodes well for OU. I’m expecting a Texas-WVU CCG.

Sorry Fred.

CousinFreddie · « **Reply #1040 on:** November 18, 2018, 05:42:04 PM »

Could be. Our defense is giving up 425 ypg. But then again Texas is giving 401 and WVU is slightly better at 379. Defense is not exactly a strength of any Big XII team this year, sad to say.

Then again on offense, total ypg is different

OU 576 (that’s kinda high you know)
WVU 502
Texas 424

In the OU-WVU matchup, the net favors OU just barely, but then these stats may not apply to Morgantown

I am glad the KU game was played in lousy weather conditions, which will be some conditioning for the Sooners for that cold couch burning country.

But it still may not be enough.

Meanwhile no doubt Texas will paste the Jayhawks. Watch for that Pooka guy though - he’s a pretty good ‘un

utee94 · « **Reply #1041 on:** November 18, 2018, 09:27:54 PM »

Wow what a weekend. A lot to unpack.

1) We put both whiskey and rum in our egg nog. Brandy's good too.

2) My trip to Aggieland was fun. Ags looked good against a game UAB team.

3) FF- Sooner Magic is a thing against the Huskers. It's not a thing against the Longhorns. 62-46-5 agrees with me.

4) I'm alright with a rematch against OU or WVU. Texas played extremely flawed football in both games, and came away with a 3-point victory in one, and a 1-point loss in the other. Texas could once again beat either team, or lose to either team. Along those line I think Texas could lose to just about any team in the country, or beat any team in the country not named Alabama. Such is the way of things in 2018.

Anyway, the B12 has been fun to watch this year, and here's hoping Texas can beat Kansas and win the B12. Wouldn't that be something.

CousinFreddie · « **Reply #1042 on:** November 18, 2018, 10:02:23 PM »

13-10 head to head and 10-3 in conference titles since the Big XII started might suggest otherwise. I do agree that historically "Sooner Magic" © is mainly an OU-NU thing, but sometimes it spills over into other rivalries. The name Roy Williams comes to mind.

Not named Alabama or Clemson. FIFY. Those two are in a league by themselves these days, much to the chagrin of SEC homers who can't stand the thought of ACC interlopers like Clemson, or earlier FSU, upsetting their self styled all time greatest conference apple cart. Unfortunately though our Big XII teams are not in that conversation, but then again neither is any other P5 conference.

utee94 · « **Reply #1043 on:** November 18, 2018, 10:14:50 PM »

I expressed above that I had a good time at the TAMU-UAB game, and I've stated my opinion on these message boards many times before, that I enjoy watching football games ay Kyle Field.

However, I can't help but point out an observation from the gameday experience at Kyle Field, mostly because it's something I've observed in Austin and at other college football stadiums, but didn't really expect in College Station given the strong ties to tradition and history they have. And that observation is-- man, even at A&M, the intrusion of the NFL-like over-abundance of commercials and loud PA rock music instead of college band music and cheerleader (or yell leader) chants is overwhelming. I've grown accustomed to it in Austin over the past couple decades (although I don't like it or approve of it), but I thought College Station of all places would avoid it.

It was in the back of my mind, but my i s c & a aggie wife really brought it to my attention when, toward the end of the first quarter, she just looked at me and said, "I don't really recognize this place." I thought she was just referring to the stadium renovations, but she said "what is all this piped-in music? What does it have to do with Texas A&M or college football?"

Honestly it saddened me all the more, because A&M was the last place I expected it. It was really surprising.

Still a good place to watch a college footbal game, but definitely not the same atmosphere it was even as recently as 10 years ago.

utee94 · « **Reply #1044 on:** November 18, 2018, 10:25:56 PM »

Quote from: CousinFreddie on November 18, 2018, 10:02:23 PM

13-10 head to head and 10-3 in conference titles since the Big XII started might suggest otherwise. I do agree that historically "Sooner Magic" © is mainly an OU-NU thing, but sometimes it spills over into other rivalries. The name Roy Williams comes to mind.

Not named Alabama or Clemson. FIFY. Those two are in a league by themselves these days, much to the chagrin of SEC homers who can't stand the thought of ACC interlopers like Clemson, or earlier FSU, upsetting their self styled all time greatest conference apple cart. Unfortunately though our Big XII teams are not in that conversation, but then again neither is any other P5 conference.

The measly 13-10 record H2H given all the extra luck the Sooners have gotten OUTSIDE the annual game against Texas to get a 10-3 conference championship advantage, actually only serves to strengthen my point about Sooner Magic being something that doesn't apply to the game against Texas. If you think about it critically, you'll understand that.
And Clemson? No. They barely beat the completely average Texas A&M team I've watched all season long. In previous years they might have been on a similar level to Alabama, but this year's Alabama team might just be the best college football team I've ever seen, and this year's Clemson team isn't the same as the past few.
I'd feel no terror if Texas somehow were to be matched up against them. Doesn't mean I'd expect a Texas win, but it also doesn't mean I'd expect a Texas loss.
I'll stick with my statement-- Alabama's the only team in the country I don't think Texas could beat.

CousinFreddie · « **Reply #1045 on:** November 19, 2018, 02:15:38 AM »

Clemson has been an Achilles heel for us. So they always give me pause. And they’ve been laying waste to most everyone on their schedule. I guess A&M was an exception.

I see your point about the proportions being different. It requires a bit more thinking than just that though.

Most of those conference wins (and it was 11 not 10, I’ve lost count!) have come after beating Texas. 8 of the 11 by my count. Some times we’ve also beaten Texas but then didn’t win the conference like in 2002 and 2004, during the five year streak.

And three of Texas ten wins were in the 1990s. If we’re talking 2000 on, OU’s winning advantage is nearly 2:1. And that’s what it’s been this decade too, 6 to 3.

Anyway, I know it won’t change your mind, which is fine of course, because you’re a great fan of your team and I respect that, but I’ll just say that when we play Texas as the two overall best teams in the Big 12, it feels no different than when we used to play Nebraska as the two best teams overall in the Big 8. Always a tough game, but I always like our chances.

Gigem · « **Reply #1046 on:** November 19, 2018, 08:41:37 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on November 18, 2018, 10:14:50 PM

I expressed above that I had a good time at the TAMU-UAB game, and I've stated my opinion on these message boards many times before, that I enjoy watching football games ay Kyle Field.

However, I can't help but point out an observation from the gameday experience at Kyle Field, mostly because it's something I've observed in Austin and at other college football stadiums, but didn't really expect in College Station given the strong ties to tradition and history they have. And that observation is-- man, even at A&M, the intrusion of the NFL-like over-abundance of commercials and loud PA rock music instead of college band music and cheerleader (or yell leader) chants is overwhelming. I've grown accustomed to it in Austin over the past couple decades (although I don't like it or approve of it), but I thought College Station of all places would avoid it.

It was in the back of my mind, but my i s c & a aggie wife really brought it to my attention when, toward the end of the first quarter, she just looked at me and said, "I don't really recognize this place." I thought she was just referring to the stadium renovations, but she said "what is all this piped-in music? What does it have to do with Texas A&M or college football?"

Honestly it saddened me all the more, because A&M was the last place I expected it. It was really surprising.

Still a good place to watch a college footbal game, but definitely not the same atmosphere it was even as recently as 10 years ago.

I’ve heard that the”DJ” thang is new to Kyle Field starting this season or maybe last. A lot of Aggies are unhappy about it especially when it interferes with the yell leaders. I think it’s there for the recruits but honestly I think the Kyle Field experience itself is what set us apart. Oh well they never asked my opinion.

Mr Tulip · « **Reply #1047 on:** November 19, 2018, 10:31:14 AM »

I hate to be the "old man yells at cloud" guy, but I think you've hit upon a problem.

I've bloviated a bunch on our various boards about the magic of college football that sets its passion apart from other similar (mostly professional) sports. I think I've got the test control subject.

Baylor used to really suck at football. I watched a lot of bad ball in the old stadium. It was still fun, though. The crowd, even while moaning and griping about the ineptitude, was still supporting a college program.

Then, the Bears got good for awhile. I won't delve into the other aspects, but it got them a new stadium. It's state of the art. Everything polished and perfect. Big TVs. Blasting sound system. A toilet seat roof, er, well it was an idea anyway.

In the new stadium, the band is there some place. Every once in awhile, you can hear them between thudding pump-up tunes. The tunes vary to try and support all cultures, but it's just there. However, the whole experience is sterile. Much like Diana in "A Chorus Line", I feel nothing. Some times they do well, other times not so well. Either way, I just feel like I'm watching a plastic version of something that used to be interesting.

CharleyHorse46 · « **Reply #1048 on:** November 19, 2018, 10:44:48 AM »

Cousin Fred, you have every right to lord over us Texas fans about the Big 12 era and I attribute much of OU’s success to Mack Brown.

He was the best of coaches and the worst of coaches.

He recruited VY, figured out he needed to leave him alone and let him be VY and he won an MNC, so I love him.

However he was a weird duck too. Seemed to value 10-win seasons more than championships.

CharleyHorse46 · « **Reply #1049 on:** November 19, 2018, 10:52:54 AM »

Furthermore when DeLoss Dodds and the BMDs stuck with Mack Brown from 2000 to 2004 they pretty much affirmed they were cool with being #2 - much to the chagrin of fans like me and Junior, Smokey, Dustin, Erin, Dopple, 320, etc...

Notice I didn’t say BC. Didn’t know him then but I assume from what he’s said about Mack that he was cool with Texas being #2 too.

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