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CousinFreddie

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« Reply #924 on: November 05, 2018, 02:52:09 PM »
Mike, it's a challenging situation.  I can relate vicariously I suppose as I have a close friend (not me, but a very close friend) who married a woman with two daughters and then they had one more child together.  There were all sorts of habits that these first two truly adorable girls had that weren't exactly the ideal way to behave according to my friend. 

One was eating vegetables, or at least avoidance thereof.  Now, I know, all kids avoid vegetables, but these girls at first looked at eating vegetables much they way you or I might look at eating bark off a tree or grazing weeds out of the ditch at the side of the road.  It was a heavy lift to get them to do so much as look at carrot without running screaming from the table.  Anyway ... to make a long story short ... what my friend did was just play it cool and gained their trust on all sorts of other fronts and role modeled the eating of veggies ... and slowly ... over time they began to eat more balanced meals.  But I'm talking years here. 

It's really hard to un-learn a habit.  I realize thermostat behavior is not the same as vegetable avoidance, but there are some parallels in the sense of what a person, even a youngster, gets used to. Takes more time than it should, but then again, I guess a lot of time went into establishing it, so it's probably some kind of cosmic balance here in general.  Anyway, that's my two cents ...

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« Reply #925 on: November 05, 2018, 03:38:52 PM »
In life there are things we can control and things we can’t.

Oftentimes we feel a sense of responsibility to control things out of our control and it causes frustration that can lead to bad judgment.

Read the news and see the folks who make terrible mistakes.  Probably cause they were trying to control something they couldn’t control and shouldve let go.

Amos, you have a wonderful opportunity right now to just get over it and let your pettiness over the electric bill go.  What’s the consequence?  $50 a month?  A happy family is well worth it.  Don’t be a dick.

You may have missed the part where the budget is razor thin at the moment.  $50 may be nothing to you, but right now we're having to fight for every cent to avoid the credit card.  

Hopefully my job will go through soon, but you can't imagine what we've cut out to keep things in the black.  


......but yes, even if we were rolling in it, it'd still irk me because it's a paradigm I don't identify with.  

Didn't any of yall see the Daddy's Home sequel movie with Mel Gibson?  Since I can believe everything I see in the movies I can conclude that a man's control over his thermostat is a real thing, and it's not just me.  I thought that scene was hilarious, and true.  

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« Reply #926 on: November 05, 2018, 03:40:22 PM »
probably best to sit down and have a detailed conversation at a good time for all parties

nothing confrontational or biased, just open conversation about how everyone feels about the issue.

there may not be a resolution that pleases everyone, but at least everything can be above the table and might all learn something about one another

Then, get a thermostat that you can control from your smartphone and don't give up the password!!!!!
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« Reply #927 on: November 05, 2018, 03:57:14 PM »
Mike, it's a challenging situation.  I can relate vicariously I suppose as I have a close friend (not me, but a very close friend) who married a woman with two daughters and then they had one more child together.  There were all sorts of habits that these first two truly adorable girls had that weren't exactly the ideal way to behave according to my friend.  

One was eating vegetables, or at least avoidance thereof.  Now, I know, all kids avoid vegetables, but these girls at first looked at eating vegetables much they way you or I might look at eating bark off a tree or grazing weeds out of the ditch at the side of the road.  It was a heavy lift to get them to do so much as look at carrot without running screaming from the table.  Anyway ... to make a long story short ... what my friend did was just play it cool and gained their trust on all sorts of other fronts and role modeled the eating of veggies ... and slowly ... over time they began to eat more balanced meals.  But I'm talking years here.  

It's really hard to un-learn a habit.  I realize thermostat behavior is not the same as vegetable avoidance, but there are some parallels in the sense of what a person, even a youngster, gets used to. Takes more time than it should, but then again, I guess a lot of time went into establishing it, so it's probably some kind of cosmic balance here in general.  Anyway, that's my two cents ...
You and FF are both correct.  As is Charley.  I hope nobody here missed the point that things are indeed pretty harmonious and I have not even come close to deciding to make this a thing and die on that hill.  He'll only be here a few more years, he's very motivated to launch, just like his older brother, and then who knows how much we'll get to see him.  I don't want anything about his time here to reek, particularly in light of the fact I did not have a good experience with my stepdad when I was his age, and I would never want an environment like that for him.  Mostly it was just a story about my quirks I thought I'd share.
I've been posting here since 2006.  I was in my mid-20's, a young adult but with less cares and responsibilities than many other adults.  I've learned all kinds of junk from y'all over the years, in more categories than I can count.  I've met several of you, some of you multiple times.  Some of you I even have phone #s for and text infrequently.  Y'all are kind of like my big brothers in a sense.  Suddenly little brother who was basically Peter Pan and never faced some of the challenges of adulthood (not always by choice) got married and gained and instant family, without the natural progression of going through the stages where you first learn to clean poopy diapers and THEN you learn all the dumb things you say and do that will probably psychologically damage a tiny human being.  Basically I just think it's neat to keep the CFN family updated on the progression of kid brother.  Sometimes you get a stepson and realize maybe I need to grow up a little bit.  Sometimes people tell me they had their own biological, tiny children, and realized they needed to grow up a little bit.  Maybe it's a wash.  
There are a lot of things my wife loves about me that she hopes her boys develop, but we both agree that at this point it's too late to coerce things into them you want them to have.  That's for children, and these aren't children.  Besides, they have a dad for a male role model already (even if he is a certified asshole) and--more importantly--as noted, they really are great kids.  I can't imagine I could raise better kids myself.  Some quirks that make you raise your eyebrows is surely nothing.  Lord knows my mom, and my dad in particular has to just shake their head sometimes at the way I am, despite their best efforts.  

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« Reply #928 on: November 05, 2018, 04:35:07 PM »
I would still be acting like a 20 something crazy drunken male if I had not become a father in my very early 30's

I'm not perfect yet, although I'm much more mature

My daughters aren't perfect, but they are maturing.

bottomline is that it's best to choose your battles and don't choose too many.  And that goes for all your relationships, not just your significant other or your children or your family.
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« Reply #929 on: November 05, 2018, 06:33:02 PM »
bottomline is that it's best to choose your battles and don't choose too many.  And that goes for all your relationships, not just your significant other or your children or your family.
This!

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« Reply #930 on: November 05, 2018, 06:35:47 PM »
Fred has been dealing with Horns for decades
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« Reply #931 on: November 05, 2018, 09:31:31 PM »
Amos, I’m sorry things are tight.  I’ve been there.

I know religion, politics, sex & race are the four things we never talk about around here, and indeed we should not.  They’re  mindfields.

But God.  The idea that our cells just randomly function perfectly for us to randomly accomplish so many things in an environment that is just randomly conducive to our survival on one of a million random planets that just happens to be rotating perfectly around one of a million random stars.  Yeah. God. Is there any question? How could there not be a God?

And smaller miracles happen everyday.  I’m a budget guy.  Accounting.  Auditing.  I cannot take a pencil to paper and explain how my wife and kids and I financially survived for so many lean hard years.  It was mathematically impossible.  We never had enough money but somehow every month a hundred little miracles transpired to enable us to make ends meet.

And now (knock on wood) life’s a little easier and blessings are piling up.

Start a gofundme account, Amos.  I won’t insult you or rob you of faith & blessings by dumping a legacy windfall on you, but I’ll push $20 or so a week your way until you’re more profitable.  Maybe some of these other aholes would too.  I’d consider it an an honor to help your stepson leave a damn light on.
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« Reply #932 on: November 06, 2018, 01:56:57 PM »
Thankfully we're not at that point, we just have to be careful and really watch it for now, but your kind thoughts are well-received and much appreciated.  

And you are correct.....why, just this month due to a long-winded State Farm thing I won't bore you with, we don't owe any car insurance for the boys' vehicles....cha-ching!  That helps us out considerably.  

We're getting by.  Just need my job to hurry up and go through so we can move from getting by to paying down some debt, getting insurance, planning for the future, things like that.  And get some entertainment back in the budget.  What's the point of having a cute wife if I can't take her out in public and watch the jaws drop of everyone who looks at me, then looks at her, then looks at me again, and visibly wonders "Now how the hell did he pull THAT off?"

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« Reply #933 on: November 06, 2018, 02:12:10 PM »
Wise words HH

My 2 cents on this is that same friend I was mentioning (with the anti-veggie stepkids) was in a similar situation when he married not just one but three (his wife and her two children).  It's A LOT to take on.  And like you say, all AT ONCE.  

But I'll tell you that this dude came through, with flying colors, and to a large extent I think it was because he was motivated to be there fully for his new family out of his love for her, and them.  And, he officially adopted both those girls and now is the grandfather of the oldest's fabulous kiddos (9 and 11 years old), and he couldn't be happier.  

MDT you sound similar to the friend I'm mentioning, and even though we haven't met in person, based on our conversations here over the years, I'm betting on you too.  It's not an easy road, but it can be a happy one, and it sounds like (stepping back and squinting) you're on a good path here.  
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« Reply #934 on: November 06, 2018, 02:14:53 PM »
...What's the point of having a cute wife if I can't take her out in public and watch the jaws drop of everyone who looks at me, then looks at her, then looks at me again, and visibly wonders "Now how the hell did he pull THAT off?"
Uhm....
Nevermind...
Any way, I should've mentioned Smokey when I made my offer last night.  You know, Smokey, right?  Burnt Eyes?  Mean hombre.  Bad mofo.   
So years ago when Smokey was selling like a top sales man should and swimming at night in a vault filled with gold coins, like Scrooge McDuck, because he was so successful, he convinced his boss that their company needed me to sort data for them.   Seriously.  Ludicrous as that sounds, it's true.
So Smokey got his boss to hire me to sort data.  I wrote a little query and ran it once a month.  It took 15 minutes and Smokey's company sent me a little compensatory paycheck that supplemented my income and kept my hungry kids from starving.

Yes.  Smokey did that.  The bastard's a saint.  And he'll probably break my spine if any of you ever tell him I said this.
So if I can ever pay if forward and show somebody else a little kindness like Smokey showed me it would be a cool thing.  
Nevertheless I'm glad you're okay, Amos.

And I'm glad I didn't really kill this thread.  I was beginning to think I had.

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« Reply #935 on: November 06, 2018, 02:17:04 PM »
Wise words HH

My 2 cents on this is that same friend I was mentioning (with the anti-veggie stepkids) was in a similar situation when he married not just one but three (his wife and her two children).  It's A LOT to take on.  And like you say, all AT ONCE.  

But I'll tell you that this dude came through, with flying colors, and to a large extent I think it was because he was motivated to be there fully for his new family out of his love for her, and them.  And, he officially adopted both those girls and now is the grandfather of the oldest's fabulous kiddos (9 and 11 years old), and he couldn't be happier.  

MDT you sound similar to the friend I'm mentioning, and even though we haven't met in person, based on our conversations here over the years, I'm betting on you too.  It's not an easy road, but it can be a happy one, and it sounds like (stepping back and squinting) you're on a good path here.  

But did the girls ever learn to eat vegetables?

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« Reply #936 on: November 06, 2018, 02:21:24 PM »
So to lighten the mood a bit, I'll tell you what I did last night.  I went to my cousin's funeral.  She was an old hippie and her funeral consisted of Bob Seger songs, Patsy Cline songs and Led Zepplin songs - and we threw carnations in a river to set her spirit free.  It was beautiful.

But on the way back from her place in the woods along the highland lakes, I was driving down one country road after another when I passed a Twin Liquors just sitting out there in the middle of no where.

A few minutes later, I passed a busy fireworks stand.

Several miles down the road it hit me that we're nowhere near the 4th of July or New Years and yet the stand was open and they were selling fireworks like hotcakes.

Them country people.  They know how to live.

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« Reply #937 on: November 06, 2018, 02:30:12 PM »
Them country people.  They know how to live.

You ain't just a whistlin' Dixie.

 

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