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CousinFreddie

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« Reply #896 on: November 01, 2018, 07:15:05 PM »
Back when we lived on the left coast, my sweet and adorable wifita occasionally visited a Trappist Abbey in the middle of Oregon wine country for periods of reflection and meditation.  I would occasionally tag along, but it was really her thing.  The monks there funded the abbey by also managing a vineyard, as well as producing and selling fantastic bread and lots of Catholic paraphernalia (candles, rosaries and the like).  No monks speak, even to one another, with the exception of one selected to interface with the public, and his name was Brother Martin.  Brother Martin was originally from Mexico, and he and my wife got along amazingly well, as they're both Catholic and native spanish speakers, despite being from totally different cultures.  She would regularly consult him for words and advice of spiritual wisdom.  Part of his ministry was to regularly go to local Mexican food stands/carts and lend his services cooking inexpensive meals for migrant workers, but of course anyone was welcome to dine at these stands.  I believe they did this as a non-profit activity and used the profits to help support migrant families (so a twofer, both low cost meals and then the profits get returned to the community).  Brother Martin was also a jokester and he often said that his job was to convert that part of Oregon to appreciate real Mexican food and culture.  Of course, his real mission was to help spread the ministry, so he was mostly just kidding about the Mexican culture part.  Anyway, he was a treasure, and I miss those visits to the abbey to see Brother Martin.


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« Reply #897 on: November 02, 2018, 10:54:37 AM »
Martin sounds like a cool guy.  That's a great story, Fred.

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« Reply #898 on: November 02, 2018, 11:00:04 AM »
There's lots of great "real" Mexican food.  It's a large country and the food varies tremendously from region to region.  None of it is very much like Tex-Mex though, despite the fact that they share many of the same ingredients.

Tex-Mex is basically our version of comfort food. Most of it is not particularly healthful, but it can be immensely satisfying.
You hit the nail on the head, Junior.
I regularly see articles by cursory food critics who imagine stupid lazy anglo Texans bastardized authentic Mexican food into this terrible thing called Tex-Mex that has no business even being recognized as a food.
In post WWII as Texans moved from the farms to cities and tried new and exotic dishes like Mexican food, the local Tejanos made and served food with what they had and what they loved - meat, processed cheese and lots of cumin.

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« Reply #899 on: November 02, 2018, 11:21:11 AM »

The farthest back that I can remember Mexican food was when I was but a lass growing up in an east Texas hick town a little ways to the west of Texarkana.

My dad would say "let's go to that messcan food place" and I would think BLEH, I hate that place.  It was El Chico.  I would get the junior burger plate.

Once I reached the ripe old age of 12 I decided it was time for me to suck it up and give it a try.  By that time, the old man liked to go to Pancho's - an all you can eat Mexican buffet place.  I went ahead and told them to give me a couple of those rolled up thingys (tamales) and figured I could choke down some rice as well.

The heavens opened.  Angels began to sing.

I wore the flag out raising that damn thing.  I tried it all before the night was through.  Holy moses, that slop was delicious.  Then they had these roll things called sopapillas?  I went to town on those things as well.  Taco in hand, my mother dragged me away from the table once the old man was ready to go.

From that day forward, I begged to go to Pancho's.  These days I settle for TaMolly's in Abilene, which is quite good actually.

Messcan food.  Sure, it may kill you, but after all, it's to die for.

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« Reply #900 on: November 02, 2018, 11:26:54 AM »
Amen, brutha!

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« Reply #901 on: November 02, 2018, 12:26:58 PM »
When I was a kid, Sunday lunch was a big deal.  Most weeks it was the day my mom made her best meal - like roast!  But on the first Sunday of every month we went out to eat and more times than not it was to a Mexican food place.

There was this one particular family that my dad knew and they had a string of restaurants in Austin from the late '40s through the early '90s.  Their restaurants were El Toro, El Mat's (short for El Matamoros, NOT to be confused with Matt's El Rancho), Antonio's and Casa Daniel.

When I was just a tadpole they started me off with tamales.  I'd shuck 'em and stack the skins on another plate like the corpses of vanquished enemies.

El Toro got bought out by some downtown hotel that built a parking garage.  

In the '70s the Austin American Statesman had an earnest competitor whose name I have forgotten, but their claim to fame was the expose that El Mat was using Alpo dogfood in their enchiladas.  My brother and I were at the lake, fishing with a couple of cute little blondes when the album rock station mentioned the story.  We threw our fishing gear into the back of the GTO and raced into town to dine at El Mat's before the city shut 'em down.  It was the first time we ever went there that we didn't have to wait for a table.  The place was empty and the service was excellent.  Our girls wouldn't eat the enchiladas but my brother and I did.  Alpo or not, they were excellent as usual.  The place was shut down for good a few days later.

In the '80s Casa Daniel opened up on Jollyville and Antonio's opened up on North Lamar.  Great food.  Antonio's kind of sold out over the years.  Bought a new place on I-35.  It's where Ojo Locos is now.

Ojo Locos is great but they don't sell enchiladas.

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« Reply #902 on: November 02, 2018, 01:05:49 PM »
I loved Casa Daniel.  Two of my best friends worked there for a while when we were in high school, busing tables and washing dishes.  They fried their own tortilla chips and my buddies also performed that duty.  At the end of the night, employees got to take home whatever was left, since they only served fresh.  We ate our weight in free chips that summer, as I recall.

Pour House is now in that location, and they finally fixed the weird layout and awkward flow of the place.

Antonio's was never as good IMO.  Even their early locations.  But they weren't terrible.

Never made it to El Toro or El Mat's, I was just a little too young for those.

But my favorite Tex-Mex by FAR in Austin was Carmen's La Tapatia on E 6th (completely unrelated to the current "La Tapatia" chain around Austin).  The enchilada gravy at that place was just... heavenly.



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« Reply #903 on: November 02, 2018, 02:19:56 PM »
When I was a kid in Sewer City (late 60s early 70s) there was a popular pizza place called Shakee's.  They had a player piano and a long window where you could watch the pizzas being made.  Great place for kids and they served beer in pitchers so the Dads enjoyed it.

Someone found the Strongheart dog food cans in the dumpster and yup they closed the place down.  A damned shame!

this was the same stuff I fed my German Shepard at that age


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« Reply #904 on: November 02, 2018, 02:21:10 PM »
I had just started college (UT) and I was craving some Mexican food one evening and my eye had caught this place called Z Tejas Grill.  I figured it was Mexican so me and the (now) wife checked it out.

Hmm...well....ok, so it was more like some eclectic Austin place actually, not that it was bad.  But it wasn't greasy rot gut Mexican slop.  So I went ahead and enjoyed the evening and never went there again.

I'm not sure if I ever found my favorite Mexican place while in college but I did frequent Pappasito's because they just built it while I was down there.  Tried Trudy's a few times and Chuy's of course.  This is late 80's, early 90's, btw.

I'm positive I ate out more at Shady Grove than anywhere.  That place just worked for me.

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« Reply #905 on: November 02, 2018, 03:25:27 PM »
Airstream chili!
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« Reply #906 on: November 02, 2018, 04:43:07 PM »
Yup, I'm a big fan of Shady Grove.

Z Tejas was probably best classified as "Southwestern" food, definitely not Tex-Mex  but it was good when it first opened and was local, and predictably went downhill when it expanded nationally and went corporate.

Trudy's and Chuy's and El Arroyo are all what I call "Aus-Mex" which is a specific style on its own.  None of these places make very good standard Tex-Mex but they each have a few dishes that are interesting and tasty on their own. 

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« Reply #907 on: November 02, 2018, 06:09:52 PM »
We have a Chuy's in Bethesda, so they've expanded pretty far and wide I guess.  It's okay.  They have kind of a specialized tortilla making operation, if I'm remembering correctly.  Food overall is okay, but nothing special.

Far better hereabouts is a place called Fish Taco, which seems fairly authentic.  It's a tad bit Americanized but not too much.  They even have Mexican futbol up on the TV.  

Back on the left coast, there were some decent places in PDX, including Cha Cha Cha, Y Porque No?, and Muchas Gracias.  Used to be a place called The Original Taco House, but it closed down earlier this year, which is too bad.  I think these were/are all Mexican (or at least Mexican American) owned
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« Reply #908 on: November 02, 2018, 06:24:58 PM »
If Fish Taco features fish tacos then it sounds more like Cal-Mex to me.  I like fish tacos though, so I'm not disparaging. 

I'm not a huge fan of Chuy's, like I said their actual Tex-Mex dishes are underwhelming.  They have a chimichanga that I like, and their jalapeno ranch sauce is pretty great.  Their green chile dishes are decent as well, but that's much more New Mexican than Tex-Mex.


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« Reply #909 on: November 02, 2018, 06:46:55 PM »
I enjoy the green chile dishes at Chuys when I visit

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