header pic

The B12 (XII) Forum, home of the 'Front Porch, y'all' at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

The 'Old' CFN/Scout Crowd- Enjoy Civil discussion, game analytics, in depth player and coaching 'takes' and discussing topics surrounding the game. You can even have your own free board, all you have to do is ask!!!

Anyone is welcomed and encouraged to join our FREE site and to take part in our community- a community with you- the user, the fan, -and the person- will be protected from intrusive actions and with a clean place to interact.


Author

Topic: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.

 (Read 215215 times)

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17672
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #770 on: October 26, 2018, 08:22:40 AM »
Of course, pounds and kilograms don't technically translate that way.

A pound is a unit of force, while a kilogram is a unit of mass.  Only in Earth's gravity does a pound-mass equal a pound-force.  While a kilogram's a kilogram the universe around, or somesuch.  I can't speak for sure, I'm still waiting for the universe to catch up to us and use Imperial measurements.




CousinFreddie

  • Player
  • ****
  • Posts: 861
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #771 on: October 26, 2018, 09:13:37 AM »
Of course, pounds and kilograms don't technically translate that way.

A pound is a unit of force, while a kilogram is a unit of mass.  Only in Earth's gravity does a pound-mass equal a pound-force.  While a kilogram's a kilogram the universe around, or somesuch.  I can't speak for sure, I'm still waiting for the universe to catch up to us and use Imperial measurements.
Force in SI is a Newton, which you get by multiplying mass (kg) by acceleration (m/s2), ie the 2nd law of motion.  In the imperial system they confuse things by clumsily using the same name for these two different things, and so one needs to define what type of pound (ie pound-mass vs pound-force) they’re considering.  Practically though no one outside of scientists and engineers care.  A kg = 2.2 lbs and anything else like this conversation we’re having is just geek speak.

Mr Tulip

  • Learn to love or leave me. Either one you wanna do.
  • Player
  • ****
  • Posts: 843
  • Non Serviam
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #772 on: October 26, 2018, 10:20:06 AM »
Then, you'd have to further explain your question. "How much do you weigh?" could be different than "How much mass do you represent?".

The "weight" question would then need to be clarified by "What? You mean here on Earth? At sea level? During which lunar phase?". 

At that point, they threw me out of CVS. I'm not sure if it was all of them, or just the local branch.

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17672
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #773 on: October 26, 2018, 10:50:05 AM »
Force in SI is a Newton, which you get by multiplying mass (kg) by acceleration (m/s2), ie the 2nd law of motion.  In the imperial system they confuse things by clumsily using the same name for these two different things, and so one needs to define what type of pound (ie pound-mass vs pound-force) they’re considering.  Practically though no one outside of scientists and engineers care.  A kg = 2.2 lbs and anything else like this conversation we’re having is just geek speak.

Well, were you, for example, trying to calculate the forces required to move a space craft beyond the earth's gravitational field, using Imperial rather than metric, then it would of course be a big deal.  You'd need to use the Imperial measure of mass, the slug, rather than a measure of force, like the pound, because a pound-mass wouldn't be a pound-force at anything other than precisely 1G.
In reality, they use the metric system, so all of this is merely academic.  Scientists and Engineers are nerds, what can I say?


FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37518
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #774 on: October 26, 2018, 10:59:47 AM »
About 147’ give or take, I’d guess.

I’m no Chuck Norris.
thanks, was just curious
heck, I don't even watch Chuck Norris movies
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2990
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #775 on: October 26, 2018, 11:46:32 AM »
The ounce used to confuse me as a kid, memorizing the different equivalents to larger/smaller units.  Sometimes an ounce measures weight, sometimes it measures volume.  Always had to stop and think about which set of conversions am I trying to deal with here.  

I'll tell you something about measurements.  

Einstein's relativity model--now the most tested and proven principle in all of physics and probably in all of science--basically just an extension of the old Newtonian model, calls for continuous motion and time.  It's probably correct because as mentioned, General Relativity has been tested in the extreme and continues to pass with flying colors.  Continuous motion and time....think about that.  

Meanwhile, GR unfortunately doesn't jive with QM, which among other things, calls for discrete units of distance and time, called Planck time and length, I think.  This is also very well tested, and physicists have thus far failed to reconcile the two.

Sometimes I lay awake at night and I don't know what's more frightening...the thought that every moment of time or movement has seen me pass through an infinite amount of time and space (every distance or length of time can always be divided by 2), or the fact that there may be a stopping point, at which place matter fails to exist at one point of space and time, and then reappears at another, not passing in between because there is no in-between.  

You scientists with all your fancy measurements can go jump.  All you do is keep good people awake at night.  

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2990
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #776 on: October 26, 2018, 11:51:25 AM »
Here's a joke for you science nerds.



Heisenberg gets pulled over by a cop for speeding.  Cop asks him "Do you know how fast you were going?"

He replies, "No, but I know exactly where I am."

Bewildered, the cop says "Sir, you were going 100 mph."

Heisenberg is irritated and says "Oh great, now I'm lost."



Same cop pulls over Shrodinger.  He looks over the car and asks if he has anything in the trunk

"A cat," Shrodinger tells him.

Cop pops the trunk and says "Hey!  This cat is dead!"

Shrodinger angrily replies "Well he is now!"

longhorn320

  • Legend
  • ****
  • Posts: 9326
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #777 on: October 26, 2018, 12:20:31 PM »
and this concludes the Big Bang Theory marathon 
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37518
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #778 on: October 26, 2018, 12:55:10 PM »
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

utee94

  • Global Moderator
  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 17672
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #779 on: October 26, 2018, 01:05:27 PM »
I don't really watch the show, but my i s c & a aggie wife enjoys it.  I can say with all honesty that I've always approved of Penny.

Gigem

  • Starter
  • *****
  • Posts: 2141
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #780 on: October 26, 2018, 01:54:16 PM »
I just wanted to stop by and say hello to all you short folks.  

Back to the nerd talk!!

FearlessF

  • Hall of Fame
  • *****
  • Posts: 37518
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #781 on: October 26, 2018, 01:57:28 PM »
I don't really watch the show, but my i s c & a aggie wife enjoys it.  I can say with all honesty that I've always approved of Penny.
I like many things about Penny, but I'm also glad that she's a Husker
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

MikeDeTiger

  • All Star
  • ******
  • Posts: 2990
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #782 on: October 26, 2018, 01:59:22 PM »
That's yet another reason I know that everything I see on TV is fake.  I don't really believe Nebraska has any fans that cute.  

UT-Erin03

  • Red Shirt
  • ***
  • Posts: 297
  • Liked:
Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #783 on: October 26, 2018, 02:17:31 PM »
I like many things about Penny, but I'm also glad that she's a Husker
I like that she is childfree by choice!  

 

Support the Site!
Purchase of every item listed here DIRECTLY supports the site.