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MikeDeTiger

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« Reply #714 on: October 22, 2018, 02:59:25 PM »
I need utee94's help.  I probably need PiratesRoost, but I haven't seen that guy in years.

Can somebody explain to me the NFL TV contracts?  My limited, basic, probably-wrong understanding is that FOX carries NFC games and CBS carries AFC games.  Most games are local, so it depends on your local affiliate which team they show.  One of them (I think FOX maybe, but I pay so little attention, I don't know) usually carries a 3:30 game, which I thought was national, i.e., everybody sees it.  

Last week Dallas played an AFC team, and CBS aired it.  Okay, no big confusion, an AFC team was involved, for whatever reasons CBS gets that one.  But this past weekend Dallas played a division rival, most definitely another NFC team, and it was still on CBS (at 3:30).  I don't understand that.  

It's probably not relevant, but it mattered for the following reason.  My wife is a big Cowboys fan and wants to watch Dallas every Sunday.  We live near Beaumont, so in general CBS carries the Texans and FOX carries the Cowboys.  We cut the cord this year, dropping satellite and using Hulu Live TV for the football season.  Hulu offers local channels, but evidently they don't have a contract with the local CBS.  There is no local news at night, and no Texans games airing at noon on Sundays.  Weeknights feature CBS' sitcoms, and Saturdays feature the SEC game of the week, which I know are national for CBS.  The rest of the time it's airing CBS News, pretty much around the clock.  Just these relentless talking heads droning on about world events.  All of which leads me to conclude this is some kind of national CBS station that Hulu offers because for whatever reason they don't have Beaumont's local CBS.  

We weren't able to watch either Cowboys game on CBS as a result.  Last week's game was a noon game, I believe, so that didn't surprise me.  I thought ok, it's a local thing, this version of CBS didn't have it.  But this past week's game was a 3:30 CBS game, which I thought meant everybody gets it, but we didn't.  

So I'm confused on A) why CBS had a game featuring two NFC teams, and B) which games count as "local" and which ones are games everybody gets?  I would've left Hulu by now if they didn't show the SEC Saturday games, and I assumed that meant we should also get national NFL games on Sunday.  

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« Reply #715 on: October 22, 2018, 03:21:31 PM »
Been years since I owned any property in Louisiana, so my memory was fuzzy.  But I just asked my grandma this weekend what her property taxes are.  She has 4 or 5 lots, zoned and fenced into one very big yard.  A house, a nice workshed and some other structures make up the improvements.  Her annual property taxes are $87 and some change.

You Texans just think about that for a minute.  
I don't know if it's just me or if all Texans feel this way but as a whole, in general, Louisianans kind of scare me. 
I've traveled to all of the states and country surrounding Texas and have visited with many lovely people in those places.
I like those quiet, gentle, pleasant souls in Mexico.  I like the stoic New Mexicans who hit on my wife.  I like those  friendly, bucolic and vacant Okies.  I like those disgusting fried food eating, cigarette smoking Arkansans.  
Louisianans are friendly and offer such a delicious culture.  Everybody I've ever met from Louisiana was great.  I could drink chickry coffee and eat beignets every day of my life.
But there's something kind of scary, creepy about Louisianans.
Maybe I saw too many movies as a kid about chain gangs and voodoo and stuff.  Or maybe I've heard too many stories about Death Valley.
But there's this kind of feeling that behind the friendly almost-Texan hospitality lurks a uniquely Louisianan lack of judgment, safety or fear of consequences.
Such as it is, it's a great place to visit but a relief to return home from.

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« Reply #716 on: October 22, 2018, 03:28:07 PM »
Well sure, but for minimal property taxes when the state government can no longer levy income tax in retirement, I'd almost be willing to put up with....them...us...whatever.......

....if we just had better fall weather and more consistent winters.  



Honestly, it doesn't matter if you're retired or not.  LA's state income tax is not enough to offset how cheap property taxes are once you homestead.  Even with the grocery tax, living in LA just just cheaper than living in TX.  It just happens to look a lot better if you are retired, I'd think.  

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« Reply #717 on: October 22, 2018, 03:40:18 PM »
Forget property taxes. What it’s really about is total taxes. How much income tax would you pay?  Sales tax? Vehicle tax? Gasoline tax?  And what do you get for your taxes?  I feel fairly good about how the state and county uses our taxes to maintain the roads etc. 

My property tax here in small town Texas is about $4k per year. I live in an older (1972) but nice two story home. It’s about 2400 sq ft plus garage. The trick is to protest your taxable value every year. 

If I lived outside of town I could knock about $1500 off my tax bill. 

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« Reply #718 on: October 22, 2018, 05:02:16 PM »
Forget property taxes. What it’s really about is total taxes. How much income tax would you pay?  Sales tax? Vehicle tax? Gasoline tax?  And what do you get for your taxes?  I feel fairly good about how the state and county uses our taxes to maintain the roads etc.

My property tax here in small town Texas is about $4k per year. I live in an older (1972) but nice two story home. It’s about 2400 sq ft plus garage. The trick is to protest your taxable value every year.

If I lived outside of town I could knock about $1500 off my tax bill.
what Id like to see is a freeze on prop taxes if owner is 65 or older
living on a fixed income can be a real bummer when property taxes increase
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« Reply #719 on: October 22, 2018, 05:31:00 PM »
I don't know much about Hulu or the network ties, but I do know you can buy one of those $20 HD boxes from Best Buy and get ALL the local channels that way, without having to pay an additional service for streaming or cable.   It's basically a one-time purchase and you get some 30 local channels that have the same programming as the CBS/FOX/NBC showing on those paying for cable.      I can vouch that the same game playing on CBS on the HD box is the same game playing on my cable listing for CBS.   Just FYI, or maybe you already knew that, but at any rate, it's the cheapest way to watch the main channels in HD without paying anything more than the equipment cost. 

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« Reply #720 on: October 22, 2018, 05:48:23 PM »
You don't need a set top box to receive local channels in HD.  You just need a TV with a digital HD tuner in it (most TVs sold in the past 6-8 years do), and you need an antenna.  

I have no idea what states might charge as an income tax. Sales tax plays into it as well.  I don't know whether or not it's cheaper to live in small town Louisiana compared to small town Texas.  Large, populous, and popular cities like Houston, Dallas, and Austin are likely more expensive to live in than cities in Louisiana, but that's specific to municipalities rather than states.

And this article explains how Dallas-Washington ended up on CBS.  The answer: "Cross-flexing."  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/10/19/cbs-finally-has-another-redskins-cowboys-game-jim-nantz-is-beside-himself/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.792d7e276345
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2018/10/19/cbs-finally-has-another-redskins-cowboys-game-jim-nantz-is-beside-himself/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.792d7e276345



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« Reply #721 on: October 22, 2018, 06:10:59 PM »
We live too far out of Beaumont to get OTA channels with a digital antennae.  That was the first thing I tried, because I used that some in San Marcos to get Austin and San Antonio channels.  That's mainly for people who live very near a city with broadcasting stations.  The old rabbit ears had quite a bit more range when I was a kid, but these digital antennaes have less than half of that.  

Erin, I'm not familiar with whatever box you're talking about.  I'll have to look into that.  Does it get you PBS too?

The sales tax rate is higher in LA than TX, but it's negligible.  Having done quite a bit of property research in TX for oil companies I had occasion to snoop around appraisal districts and tax rolls quite a bit.  Obviously there are hundreds of towns in both states with which I have no specific knowledge, but I'm comfortable in saying on the whole property tax is worlds lower in LA than TX, wherever you live.  Anecdotally, this is true for everyone I have known who has lived in both states.  Not having a grocery tax in Texas is nice, and it does add up.  Not having state income tax is nice too.  But they don't offset the property taxes, in my sphere of knowledge.  Louisiana state income tax is annoying, but it's hardly what Federal Income Tax is, and groceries, well, people only buy so many groceries.  Nearly half of my wife and I's mortgage goes to property tax here, and I imagine it's been roughly the same for all the Texans I have known.  Meanwhile these schlubs in Louisiana are paying $40 bucks or less annually.  That stuff doesn't even get folded into mortgages there, no bank would ever bother.  If you rent in Texas, as I did, you come out way ahead (obviously I'm not talking about the rent vs. own long-term-wealth debate).  If you retire in Louisiana, I have to think you come out way ahead.  And of course that ignores the other good points y'all made....are you happy with what you get for your money?  It's entirely possible to not want to live in Louisiana because you think the state sucks and Texas has better BBQ or something.  

Thanks for the link, utee!  I'll give it a read and see if I can learn something.

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« Reply #722 on: October 22, 2018, 06:17:41 PM »
I have wanted to see if the hype about the Mohu Leaf is legit.  It's an indoor digital antennae that supposedly has far superior range and power compared to the stuff that's been sold the last ~10 years before it.  If I had the time and money, I believe you can also get an outdoor digital one that mounts on the side of the house, just like the old analog ones.  They supposedly have far superior range to the indoor digital antennas as well.  

Don't tell my wife, but I'm not THAT interested in doing something about it.  I don't care about the NFL, and anyway I see that the rest of the Cowboys games are scheduled to be on FOX, which we have no problems with, and I feel like she should already be grateful that I don't bogart the TV on Saturdays when Texas plays.  

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« Reply #723 on: October 22, 2018, 06:27:42 PM »
That link was pretty helpful.  Unfortunately it doesn't say if CBS' 3:30 slot was national or not.  It did confirm that the FOX 3:30 slot is a national game, and it does seem to imply (the comment about the game reaching 80% of the country) that the CBS late afternoon slot is also national.  That leaves me still wondering why the CBS offered with Hulu didn't air it.  

It also makes me wonder how often CBS airs a late afternoon game.  During all the years I had DirecTV with all local channels included, Fox almost always had an afternoon game while CBS hardly ever did.  

It's odd that I care so much more about understanding the business side of this than I do watching NFL football.  

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« Reply #724 on: October 22, 2018, 09:02:15 PM »
I don't know much about Hulu or the network ties, but I do know you can buy one of those $20 HD boxes from Best Buy and get ALL the local channels that way, without having to pay an additional service for streaming or cable.   It's basically a one-time purchase and you get some 30 local channels that have the same programming as the CBS/FOX/NBC showing on those paying for cable.      I can vouch that the same game playing on CBS on the HD box is the same game playing on my cable listing for CBS.   Just FYI, or maybe you already knew that, but at any rate, it's the cheapest way to watch the main channels in HD without paying anything more than the equipment cost.

put up a digital antenna, don't even need a fancy box

and consider yerself blessed if you didn't get to watch the Cowboys game
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« Reply #725 on: October 22, 2018, 09:07:52 PM »
what Id like to see is a freeze on prop taxes if owner is 65 or older
living on a fixed income can be a real bummer when property taxes increase
I'm getting closer to 65, but why should the old folks live in a fancy huge house and get to cap their property tax?
If ya can't afford the taxes or think you can't.  Move into an apartment or into the senior living complex, or simply downsize your house.
let some young folks move in and pay the taxes
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« Reply #726 on: October 23, 2018, 07:42:48 AM »
Like I said before, I have no idea what states charge for income tax, having never had an official residence outside of Texas.  Is it 1%?  Is it 10%?

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'll say that any state income tax in Texas higher than 4-5% would absolutely cost me more than my state/municipal property taxes.  And I live in a pretty heavily taxed location.

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« Reply #727 on: October 23, 2018, 07:50:44 AM »
The old aerial antennas (the huge ones on a pole that towered over your home's roof) work really well for receiving long-range OTA (over the air) signals, just as they did in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.

I'm not sure everyone understands this, but the broadcast signals themselves are no different than they used to be.  Your UHF frequencies still run 450-952 MHz and there's actually no difference in the way a digital antenna receives that signal compared to the way an analog one does.  The difference is the signal contained within that wave.  The packaged signal inside the wave is now digital data, rather than analog.  But that is not "unpacked" until it reaches the digital tuner which is inside the TV.

 

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