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« Reply #5264 on: December 08, 2023, 09:39:25 AM »
Better late than never.  

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« Reply #5265 on: December 08, 2023, 09:47:44 AM »
Yes, it has enabled me to watch MLB games with a different eye.  The fact I'm still trying to pitch is interesting, it keeps me trying to stay in shape year round which is great.

A man needs hobbies.

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« Reply #5266 on: December 08, 2023, 09:48:58 AM »
I was truly, dismally, awful at baseball.

Played soccer until I could play football, then played football until the other kids my age were just so much bigger and faster, that it made no sense.  Which was about the middle of middle school.  We only had an A team, so physically I just couldn't compete.  If we'd had B team and C team like my son's middle school does, I could have played all the way through.  But I'd still have hit the same problem in high school.  I just wasn't big or fast enough to compete.


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« Reply #5267 on: December 08, 2023, 10:20:23 AM »
I didn't like playing football.  I was always tall for my age compared to the average kid, and fast, and so receiver was a thing people always wanted me to try.  I hated getting hit, and the sport was just not for me.  Was good at catching things, but terrible at catching them when I knew I was about to get blasted. 

I was not bad at beisbol.  Decent enough hitter, always got put in the outfield, where I usually got bored and wished I was in the infield where more action was taking place. 

I was rather good at shooty-hoops, and loved it.  Definitely my fave to play, and was my favorite to watch when I was young too.  That gradually shifted to football across my late teens and early 20's, and now I really never watch basketball.  I'd still play it if I were able, tho.  


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« Reply #5268 on: December 08, 2023, 10:40:14 AM »
I was a pretty good HS basketball player, was coMVP.  The other MVP signed with UNC Charlotte and started all four years, point guard.  We didn't have a 3 point shot then, he would have really lit it up if they did.  Pete Maravich was his idol and he played a bit like him.

He liked those no look passes, and I knew his "look" when he was about to zing one at me (playing center).  I think he averaged 31 per in HS, which was tops in the state.

I wonder if he's on FB.

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« Reply #5269 on: December 08, 2023, 11:19:15 AM »
Like most innovations, the 3pt shot seems so obvious to me that it makes you wonder how in the world "they" didn't immediately think of it when the rules were first organized.  But of course, what's obvious now was novel at some point.  People will look at us one day and scratch their heads why we aren't doing something "obvious" right now.  

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« Reply #5270 on: December 08, 2023, 11:52:00 AM »
dislike the 3pt shot more than I dislike the designated hitter

if it's obvious the 3pt line is a good idear, then a 4pt line and 5pts for anything over half court should be obvious

and if this is true, dunks should be worth one point
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« Reply #5271 on: December 08, 2023, 12:18:27 PM »
That's just silly.  Of course a shot from much further away should be worth more than a close one.  There's no need to have 4 or 5 point shots because by the time you got to a comparable range based on the difference in 2 and 3 pt. shots, nobody will realistically make those shots, hardly ever, and so extremely few people ever attempt them.  If you wanted to argue hail mary type bombs from half court out of necessity as the clock expires should be worth more than 3 pts, I'm listening.  

The only way a dunk should be worth 1 pt. is if it's not contested, which is the idea behind close-range point values.  Free throws are worth 1 pt. because they're uncontested.  No matter how close to the basket you are or whether or not you shoot the ball through it, bank it off the backboard, or ram it through with your hands, someone is often getting in your way trying to stop you.  2 points. 

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« Reply #5272 on: December 08, 2023, 01:15:40 PM »
My daughter's fiancee is a beisbol guy. He pitched in high school, and has been at it most of his life. He's still a fan, but doesn't play organized ball any more. 
I watch college football and fuss about things like the RG being slow getting by the C on a counter play. He's teaching me to see baseball like that. 
Rather than "hit the ball and run", how does a hitter pick up on a pitch? What does it look like out of the pitcher's hand? What pitches string together so that the hitter doesn't know what's next? How aggressive should the fielders be considering innings, runners, the score, etc? I'm learning to enjoy a game that appears largely random.

And yes, the pitch clock is making the game watchable.

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« Reply #5273 on: December 08, 2023, 01:24:10 PM »
I was against the pitch clock, but changed my mind.  I think I'd add a second or three.  I do kinda like the rules against the shift, though now the 2B plays almost up the middle often as not.  The stolen base is back, the sac bunt is not, much at all.

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« Reply #5274 on: December 08, 2023, 03:34:12 PM »
 He's teaching me to see baseball like that.
 I'm learning to enjoy a game that appears largely random.

it's a beautiful game
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« Reply #5275 on: December 08, 2023, 06:22:11 PM »
I enjoy college baseball.

MLB = rat's ass.

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« Reply #5276 on: December 09, 2023, 10:32:10 AM »
I'm with you.  I usually get second-hand exposure to it tho, as the wife loves pretty much all sports and always watches the World Series.  Especially this year when her Rangers were in it.  

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« Reply #5277 on: December 09, 2023, 12:03:15 PM »
I've liked minor league baseball a lot, nobody loafs, same as college.

I keep thinking about walking down to the Tech field to watch some beisbol but haven't gone yet.

 

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