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Topic: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
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CWSooner · « **Reply #4816 on:** April 17, 2023, 02:53:47 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on April 17, 2023, 05:49:01 AM

An interesting point about calibers in naval guns, the Washington and SD classes had 16" guns in 45 calibers while the Iowas had 16" guns in 50 calibers, the term referring to the length of the barrel relative to the breech size. Longer barrels means higher velocity (to a point). The same is true for WW 2 tank armament.

The Pnzer IV D had a 75 mm main gun that was short, 20 caliber I dimly recall? This was upgraded in the Panzer IV F and above to 75 mm and 71 caliber, I think, a longer gun barrel for antitank use. The Shermans had the same sort of upgrades with different guns like the British 17 pounder, which was a pretty good antitank gun. But not so good with soft targets.

The Iowa class BBs were somewhat akin to battle cruisers, a term with variable meanings.

Point of information: BB-55 and BB-56 were in the North Carolina class. I guess some folks call it the Washington class, because Washington was launched first. But North Carolina was commissioned first.
Funny thing about the "South Dakota class." There were two of them. The 1920 iteration contained USS South Dakota (BB-49), USS Indiana (BB-50), USS Montana (BB-51), USS North Carolina (BB-52), USS Iowa (BB-53), and USS Massachusetts (BB-54). All were halted way short of completion and scrapped, in compliance with the Washington Naval Treaty, as I mentioned upthread. But all of those ship names except Montana were reused in subsequent classes, including the 1939 South Dakota class. And Montana was going to be the lead ship of her class after the Iowas, had the U.S. Navy continued to build battleships in the post-WWII era.
A lot of naval writers call the New York class the Texas class, because Texas was commissioned first.
Here's a comparison of Bismarck with the Iowa class, focusing on their main guns.

https://youtu.be/SQB4TmtweKQ

utee94 · « **Reply #4817 on:** April 18, 2023, 08:44:16 AM »

I think it's interesting that on THIS thread, folks can discuss government policy with significant political ramifications, without it becoming an unbridled poop-flinging contest.

Curious, that...

Cincydawg · « **Reply #4818 on:** April 18, 2023, 08:48:41 AM »

Your all out their really far far right (or left) and don't use pronouns two.

FearlessF · « **Reply #4819 on:** April 18, 2023, 10:41:01 AM »

that's how the porch works

utee94 · « **Reply #4820 on:** April 18, 2023, 07:12:49 PM »

porch gonna do what the porch gonna do

CWSooner · « **Reply #4821 on:** April 19, 2023, 09:36:59 PM »

https://youtu.be/hF-U2n1Ndbg

longhorn320 · « **Reply #4822 on:** April 19, 2023, 10:58:39 PM »

not sure what I was watching CW but it looked like a lot of fun

longhorn320 · « **Reply #4823 on:** April 20, 2023, 07:42:07 PM »

Today starts the Tall Ship Festival in Galveston

This is really neat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7GYifKN7zw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcpOwnIpAz0

CWSooner · « **Reply #4824 on:** April 20, 2023, 10:35:44 PM »

Quote from: longhorn320 on April 19, 2023, 10:58:39 PM

not sure what I was watching CW but it looked like a lot of fun

They were blasting the foam out of the anti-torpedo blisters that were added in the 1926 modernization. Texas was handed over as a museum ship in 1948. At that time, the blisters were filled with foam as an anti-corrosion measure.
Like many of the preservation techniques that were applied in 1948, the foam failed to do its job. I think that a previous video said that the foam caused more corrosion than it prevented. I imagine that there was already rust inside the blisters (meaning that there was rust attacking the hull itself) from the water that had (at least partially) filled the blisters for the previous 22 years.

utee94 · « **Reply #4825 on:** April 21, 2023, 11:06:22 AM »

Quote from: CWSooner on April 20, 2023, 10:35:44 PM

They were blasting the foam out of the anti-torpedo blisters that were added in the 1926 modernization. Texas was handed over as a museum ship in 1948. At that time, the blisters were filled with foam as an anti-corrosion measure.
Like many of the preservation techniques that were applied in 1948, the foam failed to do its job. I think that a previous video said that the foam caused more corrosion than it prevented. I imagine that there was already rust inside the blisters (meaning that there was rust attacking the hull itself) from the water that had (at least partially) filled the blisters for the previous 22 years.

Reminds me of the way Airstream put insulation in the underbelly of their trailers. They built from the bottom-up, and the insulation got sandwiched between the aluminum sheet metal of the bellypan, and the mild steel frame. This worked fine, but by design there were some holes in the bellypan and when water got up into it, it would stay trapped in the insulation, right up against the mild steel frame. Mild steel has very little resistance to corrosion, and so frame rot became inevitable and extensive.

When I rebuilt the frame of my Airstream, I eliminated the insulation and most of the belly pan. I can do this because of the mild climate I live in, but people up north have more work to do.

In short, the best-intentioned designs can still have unforeseen consequences and negative outcomes.

CWSooner · « **Reply #4826 on:** April 21, 2023, 12:47:30 PM »

Yep. We know what paves the road to Hell.

CWSooner · « **Reply #4827 on:** April 21, 2023, 08:08:47 PM »

Texas and New Jersey talk shop.

https://youtu.be/a68a-GBYN3E

This video was just posted today, but I think it was filmed at some earlier time. I saw Ryan--the New Jersey guy--in a new video the other day and his beard was much shorter.

Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XALrDbvoGFE&t=0s

Cincydawg · « **Reply #4828 on:** April 22, 2023, 08:59:39 AM »

THIS DAY IN HISTORY:

The Oklahoma Land Rush (1889)
On April 22, 1889, some 50,000 people lined up to grab a piece of the 2 million acres (8,000 sq km) being made available by the US government in the first land run into the Unassigned Lands, later known as the state of Oklahoma. Each settler could claim a lot of up to 160 acres (0.65 sq km). A number of participants illegally entered and hid in the area before the run officially began at noon in order to quickly claim the choicest homesteads.

FearlessF · « **Reply #4829 on:** April 22, 2023, 09:14:54 AM »

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