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« Reply #4130 on: October 27, 2022, 12:10:25 PM »
I swear, sometimes I just wish everybody would just STFU about chili. Talk about politics, religion , whatever. I bet if you do a search for chili on this site you would get more hits than Biden or Trump combined.


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Ok, I’m only half joking.

Not many people participated in my old gumbo thread.  

Gumbo--by my people's standards at least--has a lot of leeway.  You can have two very different concoctions that we'll still identify as gumbo.  

At the Ole Miss game I saw some tiger fans with signs that said "Lane Kiffin puts tomatoes in gumbo."  That'd be a 'no' for me in chicken/turkey/seafood gumbo, but I don't think I see a problem there if it's okra gumbo.  


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« Reply #4131 on: October 27, 2022, 12:12:27 PM »
I love okra in soups of all kinds and formulate gumbo myself usually depending on what is in the fridge.

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« Reply #4132 on: October 27, 2022, 12:14:59 PM »
Not many people participated in my old gumbo thread. 

Gumbo--by my people's standards at least--has a lot of leeway.  You can have two very different concoctions that we'll still identify as gumbo. 

At the Ole Miss game I saw some tiger fans with signs that said "Lane Kiffin puts tomatoes in gumbo."  That'd be a 'no' for me in chicken/turkey/seafood gumbo, but I don't think I see a problem there if it's okra gumbo. 



Don't some Louisiana folk say that okra doesn't belong in gumbo?

As for me, I don't know anything about it, other than it's tasty and I like to eat it, so I couldn't contribute much to a thread on the subject.  I've made it a couple of times based on recipes of varying "authenticity" and it's been okay but definitely not as good as what I can get in a decent Louisiana-oriented restaurant.


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« Reply #4133 on: October 27, 2022, 12:19:39 PM »
My gumbo has a lot of onion, bell pepper, celery, and okra plus the meats of whatever kind.  And tomatoes.

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« Reply #4134 on: October 27, 2022, 12:20:20 PM »
I love okra in soups of all kinds and formulate gumbo myself usually depending on what is in the fridge.

Beats how Cajuns probably originally did it, which was likely formulated by whatever was in the ditch.  

There is something called okra soup, which is rather good, and a great choice for cold weather.  My family's version of it will really clear out the sinuses if you come in stuffy from the cold.  It's not spicy per se, as in it's not going to burn your tongue and demand lots of liquid, but I've never made it through a bowl without having to go blow my nose.  

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« Reply #4135 on: October 27, 2022, 12:31:06 PM »
Don't some Louisiana folk say that okra doesn't belong in gumbo?

As for me, I don't know anything about it, other than it's tasty and I like to eat it, so I couldn't contribute much to a thread on the subject.  I've made it a couple of times based on recipes of varying "authenticity" and it's been okay but definitely not as good as what I can get in a decent Louisiana-oriented restaurant.

Probably so, but in general any adequately dark roux-based soup will fly with a lot of people in Acadiana.  

I've had okay gumbo in restaurants but found it's similar to how you've described bbq before....some restaurants are fine but never as good as what you can do in your backyard or someone's who knows what they're doing.  Some of the best I've ever had I remain convinced would not fly in public restaurants that have to maintain codes and health standards.  My brother-in-law's family makes a chicken and sausage gumbo that would scare off a lot of people just by looking at it and I swear to this day I don't think I want to know exactly what's in it, but omg was it good.  

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« Reply #4136 on: October 27, 2022, 12:34:00 PM »
The KFC near me (Korean Fried Chicken) has a side dish of mac and cheese and kimchi.  Yum.

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« Reply #4137 on: October 27, 2022, 12:40:32 PM »
Probably so, but in general any adequately dark roux-based soup will fly with a lot of people in Acadiana. 

I've had okay gumbo in restaurants but found it's similar to how you've described bbq before....some restaurants are fine but never as good as what you can do in your backyard or someone's who knows what they're doing.  Some of the best I've ever had I remain convinced would not fly in public restaurants that have to maintain codes and health standards.  My brother-in-law's family makes a chicken and sausage gumbo that would scare off a lot of people just by looking at it and I swear to this day I don't think I want to know exactly what's in it, but omg was it good. 
Oh yeah, I for sure believe that an old Cajun gramma is gonna make a better gumbo than a restaurant.  Unfortunately I'm short a couple of old Cajun grammas, so I have to make do.


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« Reply #4138 on: October 27, 2022, 12:47:09 PM »
Honestly one of the main problems is anything in a restaurant is going to be fresh.  You can mitigate this drawback in your home cooking by other means, but gumbo is usually going to be better next-day or even a couple days.  My grandma for years made hers in advance when she knew family was coming and froze it.  After the meat has had more time to soak in the roux, it's way better imo.  

This is not to say I haven't had some great stuff straight out of the pot.  

The other main problem is I just don't care for how most restaurants do their roux.  Usually thinner and lighter than what I was raised on.  That will vary by person, obviously, and some people will prefer that.  

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« Reply #4139 on: October 27, 2022, 12:50:39 PM »
Considering we tend not to talk politics around here, aside from a couple of posters that just can't seem to help themselves, you're probably right.

But, why WOULDN'T we want to talk about chili?  It's delicious, and we're finally getting some slightly cooler weather which is right when I start to crave it.
OK you talked me into it.  I like to each chili on a cool to cold day, however the wife makes it. End of story.  

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« Reply #4140 on: October 27, 2022, 01:03:45 PM »
I rue bad roux ...

C'est true.

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« Reply #4141 on: October 27, 2022, 01:30:37 PM »
what's the difference between Gumbo (Dark Roux is Hard to Deux) and  Jambalaya?
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« Reply #4142 on: October 27, 2022, 07:28:35 PM »
Lots of nuclear fears lately. 

Do you ever wonder if we should’ve just bombed the Ruskies ( with nukes ) directly after WWII, either right after they first got the bomb ( 1947 I believe) or maybe between then but before they could’ve really struck back ?  

I mean yes maybe they could’ve landed a bomb or two over here, but before ICBMs what kind of real way would they have had to hit the continental US hard ?  

ICBMs didn’t come about until the mid to late 50’s, jet bombers probably about the same time, maybe some bigger fighters that could carry a bomb or two but they wouldn’t have the range. 

Sure, Europe would’ve been toast, but they kinda already were toast. 

For sure a lot of the ensuing wars could’ve maybe been avoided. Korea, Nam, all the other little Cold War skirmishes. 

May have even been able to hit one or two well placed strategic targets, minimized collateral losses, and avoided lots of other bloodshed. 


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« Reply #4143 on: October 27, 2022, 10:24:30 PM »
Lots of nuclear fears lately.

Do you ever wonder if we should’ve just bombed the Ruskies ( with nukes ) directly after WWII, either right after they first got the bomb ( 1947 I believe) or maybe between then but before they could’ve really struck back ? 

I mean yes maybe they could’ve landed a bomb or two over here, but before ICBMs what kind of real way would they have had to hit the continental US hard ? 

ICBMs didn’t come about until the mid to late 50’s, jet bombers probably about the same time, maybe some bigger fighters that could carry a bomb or two but they wouldn’t have the range.

Sure, Europe would’ve been toast, but they kinda already were toast.

For sure a lot of the ensuing wars could’ve maybe been avoided. Korea, Nam, all the other little Cold War skirmishes.

May have even been able to hit one or two well placed strategic targets, minimized collateral losses, and avoided lots of other bloodshed.
The Soviets exploded their first atomic bomb in August 1949, 49-1/2 months after we did the first explosion at the Trinity site near Alamogordo AAF, NM. They did it with the help of the Klaus Fuchs spy ring that included the (in)famous Rosenbergs, who were later executed for their treachery.
It's a hypothetical question, of course. There was no way that we would have done that. Patton merely suggested a land war against the USSR and got relieved of command of 3rd Army.
To have dropped atomic bombs on the USSR would have undercut everything that we had said we had been fighting for. (Of course, we had conducted a huge domestic propaganda campaign to convince the American people that the Soviets were our friends and were fighting for freedom, just like we were.)
Had we done it, it wouldn't have wiped out evil in the world. There still would have been bad guys, and we would have looked like the bad guys to most of the world.
I think we might have done a better job of influencing Russia's course after the USSR collapsed, but that is Monday-morning quarterbacking at its finest.
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