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« Reply #3318 on: February 14, 2022, 07:45:17 PM »
There's a place in Tulsa that Will Rogers used to patronize--Ike's Chili.

The chili recipe is probably unchanged since the 1920s.  It's a mild chili.  If you want it hot, there are 3-4 varieties of hot sauce at the table.  IIRC, you can get jalapeno slices on the side.

You can order it much like Skyline chili.  In a bowl as chili.  Over spaghetti.  Over spaghetti with cheese.  Over spaghetti with cheese and onions.  Etc.

As for the chili itself, it's not like any chili that I fix, but it's good in its own way.

I lost a friend to Parkinson's disease 2 years ago this April.  For over 10 years, about 4 out of every 5 Saturdays, we'd go to lunch to eat at locally owned restaurants that served one of the following: BBQ, pizza, Mexican food, hamburgers, or chili.  Ike's Chili was on the list.

As far as what is chili and what is not, I defer to the Font of All Wisdom:


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Chili con carne (also spelled chilli con carne or chile con carne and shortened to chili or chilli), meaning "chili with meat", is a spicy stew containing chili peppers (sometimes in the form of chili powder), meat (usually beef), tomatoes and often kidney beans. Other seasonings may include garlic, onions, and cumin. The dish originated in northern Mexico or southern Texas.

Geographic and personal tastes involve different types of meat and other ingredients. Recipes provoke disputes among aficionados, some of whom insist that the word chili applies only to the basic dish, without beans and tomatoes. Chili con carne is a common dish for cook-offs, and may be used as a side, garnish, or ingredient in other dishes, such as soups or salsas.
I prefer mine without beans, FWIW.
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« Reply #3319 on: February 14, 2022, 07:45:32 PM »
I'll try to remember 4-way

I'll easily remember hot sauce

I like it on many things
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« Reply #3320 on: February 14, 2022, 10:31:34 PM »
I don't actually like to put hot sauce on chili.  All hot sauces have their own flavor, many of them include vinegar, and adding them to another dish fundamentally changes the flavor of that dish.  I like putting hot sauces on scrambled eggs or something like that, because then the entire point is to alter the flavor.

But chili alone is complex dish with a customized combination of flavors designed to create a specific profile.  Hot sauce changes that flavor profile. 
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« Reply #3321 on: February 14, 2022, 10:38:44 PM »
"Chili con carne (also spelled chilli con carne or chile con carne and shortened to chili or chilli), meaning "chili with meat", is a spicy stew containing chili peppers (sometimes in the form of chili powder), meat (usually beef), tomatoes and often kidney beans. Other seasonings may include garlic, onions, and cumin. The dish originated in northern Mexico or southern Texas.

Geographic and personal tastes involve different types of meat and other ingredients. Recipes provoke disputes among aficionados, some of whom insist that the word chili applies only to the basic dish, without beans and tomatoes. Chili con carne is a common dish for cook-offs, and may be used as a side, garnish, or ingredient in other dishes, such as soups or salsas."


As far as that's concerned-- Ha.  As if.

I'll defer to the rules for the largest and most famous chili cookoff in the world, the one in Terlingua, Texas.

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"B. PREPARING CHILI
1.Chili must be cooked on site the day of the cookoff from scratch. "Scratch" means starting with raw meat and using regular spices. "Scratch" means starting with raw meat and spices. Commercial chili powder is permissible, but complete commercial chili mixes are NOT permitted.
2.Chili must be prepared out in the open in as sanitary a manner as possible.
3.No beans, pasta, rice or other similar items are allowed.
4.The head cook must prepare the chili to be judged."


I don't include tomatoes in my chili but I've had plenty of versions I like, that did.

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« Reply #3322 on: February 15, 2022, 07:33:47 AM »
we all know how terms get confused and redone, like the terms cuisine and entree, which in French mean something different.

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« Reply #3323 on: February 15, 2022, 07:35:12 AM »
My own "chili" is often spaghetti sauce to which I later add chili powder, and I like it served over rice.

Occasionally I will top it with diced raw onion and shredded cheddar to make my variant of Cincy chili.  It's better.

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« Reply #3324 on: February 15, 2022, 12:17:28 PM »
Diced onion and shredded cheddar are common toppings for chili here in Texico and pretty much anywhere else, that's not the part unique to Cincy chili.  The noodles and the heaping helping of beans certainly are, though.  And of course the flavor, which doesn't taste like chili but rather tastes like Mediterranean spaghetti sauce.


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« Reply #3325 on: February 15, 2022, 01:22:46 PM »
I'm all for diversity in food options.

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« Reply #3326 on: February 15, 2022, 01:27:40 PM »
For sure, folks should be empowered to eat any kind of spaghetti sauce they like.

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« Reply #3327 on: February 15, 2022, 01:40:07 PM »
We had lunch yesterday at a new Persian place up the street, this is the review I penned for our condo newsletter:

Wow, it's outstanding,  my new favorite in Atlanta.  We went for lunch on Valentine's Day, evening reservations are tough to find and it was pretty full at lunch.  Catherine ordered rack of lamb which was probably the best I've ever tasted.  They have a number of "small plates" which aren't that small, all delicious, and an extensive wine list.  And the interior is gorgeous.  Our server Maria was excellent.  It is both interesting and superb, a great combination and welcome addition to Midtown.If you go for lunch, two appetizers is plenty of food for one.

One thing I liked a lot was the diversity of flavors.  We took our Turkish neighbor with us and talked about the similarities with Turkish food.  The lamb was probably the best I've ever had.  All these food items were experimental at some point, I surmise, and some folks like spaghetti noodles with a weird kind of spaghetti sauce on them.  Some new things work and no doubt many are less popular.

Whoever first ate snails and oysters was brave and or hungry.  We're headed out tonight to our fav French place.

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« Reply #3328 on: February 15, 2022, 02:44:01 PM »
I'm a big fan of snails and oysters.  I'll eat just about anything.

Except cucumbers, I hate 'em.

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« Reply #3329 on: February 15, 2022, 02:53:25 PM »
I like just about everything except liver.  Some things like caviar I find to be meh, my wife loves it, I don't.  

She has learned to like sweet tea, grits, collard greens, corn bread, black eyed peas, field peas, and BBQ.

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