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utee94

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« Reply #3136 on: December 06, 2021, 07:42:18 AM »
Interesting article about semi conductor industry coming to Texas

utee what do you think of this

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/texas-will-be-home-of-semiconductor-manufacturing-amid-chip-shortage-gov-abbott
It's a lofty dream, and this new Samsung plant is a step in the right direction.  But Samsung was already producing chips in the USA, and in the Austin area specifically.  But it's mostly low-cost memory chips, not the kind of complicated microcontroller/CPU chips that are the primary cause of the shortages.  There's a reason so much semiconductor manufacturing has moved overseas, it's still cheaper to do it there, than here.

Over the last two decades, Austin alone has lost semiconductor plants from semiconductor giants like Motorola, Spansion, AMD, and TI.  All of them used to manufacture complex ICs right here in town, and now not a single one of them does.  There are only a couple of wafer fabs left, and it's all R&D now, not production.

And that's just Austin, the drain has occurred throughout Texas, and the entire United States.  It would take another couple of decades to get it back to where it was in the 90s/early 2000s.  That doesn't mean it can't be done or isn't worth trying, because I agree 100% with reducing our reliance on foreign countries for critical supply chain/infrastructure needs.  But it's going to take a lot more time, effort, and resources, than many folks might think. 

 

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« Reply #3137 on: December 06, 2021, 09:11:10 AM »
thanks for your reply

like chicken soup it cant hurt

I really love it when a big company moves to Texas
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« Reply #3138 on: December 06, 2021, 09:44:35 AM »
Samsung has been here for many years, but this certainly represents major expansion.

We've also had major Apple expansion here recently, including building a manufacturing site.  And Oracle has expanded recently.  

Obviously Elon Musk is expanding his operations in the Lone Star State as well.

All good news for sure, but I don't think anyone should get too excited about statements from the governor about bringing "all of the semiconductor manufacturing" to Texas.  

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« Reply #3139 on: December 06, 2021, 11:16:37 AM »
I think its great to have a governor who really supports this state

I dont always agree with him but theres no doubt where his heart is

Hes basically inviting the semi conductor industry to consider Texas

There are some basic things a state can do to attract companies to move there 

and it looks like Texas is very willing to do those things
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« Reply #3140 on: December 06, 2021, 12:05:59 PM »
He's pro-big-business, no doubt about that. :)

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« Reply #3141 on: December 06, 2021, 12:16:55 PM »
Low taxes, modest cost of living, available work force, decent schools, lowish crime, decent weather, not a secret.

I was a kid when the South was replete with textile mills transplanted from the NE (and now gone to Thailand et al.).


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« Reply #3142 on: December 06, 2021, 04:16:30 PM »
Low taxes, modest cost of living, available work force, decent schools, lowish crime, decent weather, not a secret.

Counterpoint:  Ugly women, no beer, roaming gangs of organ harvesters that will steal your kidneys, and the inside-out green mist.

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« Reply #3143 on: December 06, 2021, 04:21:16 PM »
Counterpoint:  Ugly women, no beer, roaming gangs of organ harvesters that will steal your kidneys, and the inside-out green mist.
Folks please welcome our Chamber of Commerce representative
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« Reply #3144 on: December 06, 2021, 04:26:21 PM »
I was speaking generally about where companies like to move.  I should have mentioned transportation as well.


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« Reply #3145 on: December 06, 2021, 06:40:29 PM »
I was speaking generally about where companies like to move.  I should have mentioned transportation as well.


what about transportation
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« Reply #3146 on: December 06, 2021, 10:38:43 PM »
Counterpoint:  Ugly women, no beer, roaming gangs of organ harvesters that will steal your kidneys, and the inside-out green mist.
Might want to tell that to the Yahoos coming from the other way
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« Reply #3147 on: December 07, 2021, 07:02:21 AM »
A location with good transportation, highways, rail, air, a port, will be preferred over ones without any, or relatively poorer.

Mass transit could be a factor for some, it is a bit here anyway, a lot of development is happening near the subway stations.  Google and MS have new campuses or buildings near a station, the MS campus is planned, not yet extant.  We live about 0.8 miles from either of two stations, in good weather we walk there with luggage to get to the airport.

I'd say highways and rail are highly desirable for any manufacturing facility, obviously.  

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« Reply #3148 on: December 07, 2021, 09:34:02 AM »
I dont think Texas requires rail mass transit to attract industries

and a lot of times corporate headquarters are away from downtown in big cities

just to get away from the mess

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« Reply #3149 on: December 07, 2021, 01:00:44 PM »
Manufacturing plants still get their raw materials and ship out finished product by rail. It's a vital artery.

My irritation with Texas is usually that the deals give away more in abatements and incentives than get replenished. The maintenance to roadways and utility usage usually leaves the average Texas resident with more of a burden than benefit.

 

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