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« Reply #2436 on: August 11, 2021, 10:45:38 AM »
The Fiero had the makings of a good car, but as usual, GM botched it out of the gate with cost cutting.

GM consistently built interesting cars with some good tech and some really bad features.  I owned a 1982 Cadillac Cimarron with a manual transmission. It handled well and I put 130,000 miles on it, and it got decent mpgs for the day, but the acceleration was, not.  I got it at the end of the model year and nobody wanted a manual.

I got a 1987 Dodge Caravan with a manual transmission the same way about a month before we learned the wife was have twins.  We knew she was expecting, and we already had Chris.

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« Reply #2437 on: August 11, 2021, 10:48:50 AM »
May be an image of 1 person, standing and car
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« Reply #2438 on: August 11, 2021, 10:51:08 AM »
That is one cool photo.

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« Reply #2439 on: August 11, 2021, 11:48:20 AM »
Pontiac was, of course, always the "sporty fun" division. The engineers wanted to create something sort of exotic and Italian type flavored. Legend has it that when they showed off their 6 cylinder, transverse mounted, 2-seat masterpiece, the GM brass said, "Fantastic! Now, if you'll make it 4 cylinder and put in a trunk, we can sell it as a family coupe as well!". That's what the world got in 1984 - an underpowered, complicated piece of engineering too cramped to do anything in.

Mine was an '86. The GT version went back to the original 6-cylinder design, but still lacked the gearing and oomph from the original. Despite the look, it was a relatively safe car with an all steel cage. The plastic body panels were glued on. With the mid-engine setup and "transaxle" (a transmission and differential built together right out of the engine), it was practically impossible to service without a lift. The weight distribution, though, was practically right through the center point of the car. Because of this, Pontiac designed it with massive understeer. Those who "corrected" this feature found themselves spinning the car exiting on cloverleafs.

They finally got all the bugs kicked out of the design around 1988, which, of course, is when they canceled the whole thing.

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« Reply #2440 on: August 11, 2021, 12:08:07 PM »
Any of y'all watch "Future Man" on hulu?




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« Reply #2441 on: August 11, 2021, 12:15:09 PM »
Exactly what mine looked like (when it was "new" to me in the summer of 1990):


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« Reply #2442 on: August 11, 2021, 01:44:10 PM »
It could have been a truly great car.  I wish the current Camaro were something similar to it, a modern turbo 4 would be adequate indeed.

I do not fit in a Mazda Miata, at all, no way.  

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« Reply #2443 on: August 11, 2021, 02:07:27 PM »
Nice Fiero, Droog.  That was my favorite version.  I bought my daughter an '84 notchback when she turned 16.  She picked it out off the lot even though it had a 4 speed and she'd only driven automatics.  I had fond memories of teaching her to drive it.  Speeding tickets and accidents, not so much.   
My grandson got a turbo Mini Cooper for well below Blue Book because it was a stick.  

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« Reply #2444 on: August 11, 2021, 02:17:42 PM »
I drove a Mini Turbo in Boston, we stayed at a friend's house and his wife was away.  Mini Cooper S.  I prefer the GTI by a wide margin, but snagging one used could be an idea.  I keep looking at convertibles.

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« Reply #2445 on: August 11, 2021, 02:20:09 PM »
Back in the mid 90's, I got the urge to have a project pony car again so I got an '85 IROC Z/28



It wasn't as fun as I remembered and wrenching on it was a PITA.  I took off the T-Tops twice before deciding it wasn't worth it.
Those old '60's cars were crude but there was a lot of room in the engine bays.

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« Reply #2446 on: August 11, 2021, 02:23:32 PM »
I drove a Mini Turbo in Boston, we stayed at a friend's house and his wife was away.  Mini Cooper S.  I prefer the GTI by a wide margin, but snagging one used could be an idea.  I keep looking at convertibles.
Mini Coopers have a lot of mechanical issues.  I would much prefer your GTI.  My grandson traded his Coop for a new Jetta.  He did learn a lot and he has been restoring his step-mom's Miata.  He has it in running and driving condition and now is working on the cosmetics.

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« Reply #2447 on: August 11, 2021, 02:35:34 PM »
Back in the mid 90's, I got the urge to have a project pony car again so I got an '85 IROC Z/28



It wasn't as fun as I remembered and wrenching on it was a PITA.  I took off the T-Tops twice before deciding it wasn't worth it.
Those old '60's cars were crude but there was a lot of room in the engine bays.

In high school I dated a girl that drove one of these pictured below.  In looking up the pics, the comments indicate that apparently it was quite rare.  It looks cool but we found the lack of a backseat to be... challenging.  Fortunately my car had one...








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« Reply #2448 on: August 11, 2021, 03:44:22 PM »
Well this conversation turned up something neat.  I asked my friend why they got rid of that 64 1/2 Mustang, and I found out they didn't, it just got retired for a few decades.  First picture is as I remember it, on the last day he drove it.  Evidently it stayed at his parents house for about 22 years and now he's brought it to his place where he's begun the process of tearing it down to the bones to rebuild (2nd photo).  I'll be interested to see it again when he's done with it. 

Driving that thing felt like trying to tame a lion that's starting to get hungry. 





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« Reply #2449 on: August 11, 2021, 04:11:44 PM »
I always wanted one of these when I was in high school. In fact, I'd like one now, 38 years too late.

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