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FearlessF · « **Reply #2366 on:** August 06, 2021, 12:05:25 PM »

maybe it's the drinks if they know the bartender and are preferred customers

Gigem · « **Reply #2367 on:** August 06, 2021, 01:40:32 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 06, 2021, 11:34:45 AM

Probably, it was interesting. The valet dude first put it in reverse, the car was parked nose out, but someone. The two "ladies" who came in as we left, I held the door, were lookers for sure, one had on those ripped jeans, a style that I don't understand, and a top that exhibited, I didn't get as good a look at the other lady.

Maybe they just like the drinks there. I thought it weird to have a long standing upscale restaurant in that location.

At least the food was good.

Eh, many stick shifts have the R in different places. Some have been leftmost position and up, some have been leftmost position and down, some are rightmost position and up, you get the idea. Every time I've driven an unfamiliar one it's taken a bit to get used to. Not many sticks around these days anyways. I've got an F-350 stick, the only one driveable, and my kids know how to drive it. They love it and think it's cool.
Some people refer to stick shifts as anti-millennial theft device.

CWSooner · « **Reply #2368 on:** August 06, 2021, 02:55:07 PM »

Quote from: Gigem on August 06, 2021, 01:40:32 PM

Eh, many stick shifts have the R in different places. Some have been leftmost position and up, some have been leftmost position and down, some are rightmost position and up, you get the idea. Every time I've driven an unfamiliar one it's taken a bit to get used to. Not many sticks around these days anyways. I've got an F-350 stick, the only one driveable, and my kids know how to drive it. They love it and think it's cool.
Some people refer to stick shifts as anti-millennial theft device.

My second car was a 1969 Datsun 2000, like this one.

The shift pattern was this. Reverse was the one you didn't mention--rightmost and down.

I learned to drive on an old (ca. 1960) GMC pickup with a 3-on-the-tree shifter.

Thumper · « **Reply #2369 on:** August 06, 2021, 11:23:59 PM »

Quote from: Gigem on August 06, 2021, 01:40:32 PM

Eh, many stick shifts have the R in different places. Some have been leftmost position and up, some have been leftmost position and down, some are rightmost position and up, you get the idea. Every time I've driven an unfamiliar one it's taken a bit to get used to. Not many sticks around these days anyways. I've got an F-350 stick, the only one driveable, and my kids know how to drive it. They love it and think it's cool.
Some people refer to stick shifts as anti-millennial theft device.

Back in 1970 my best friend got a Plymouth Duster 340 and brought it over to show me and have me take it for a test drive. I looked at the shift knob which showed the typical 4 speed pattern, pushed the stick up and left and launched it ..... backwards....

at high speed. The transmission was actually a 3 speed but Rick put a 4 speed shift knob to look cool. Fortunately I didn't hit anything but that will get your attention quick.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #2370 on:** August 07, 2021, 09:39:25 AM »

Reverse is a bit unusual, you push down and shift left and up, OK, but he was revving the engine and then stalling the car, three times. You have to really work to get it in reverse, perhaps he left it there when he parked. He still couldn't drive a stick, that car has an easy engagement point (GTI).

It was bucking when he finally got it moving, I was walking over to get him out of my car before he burned the clutch.

CWSooner · « **Reply #2371 on:** August 07, 2021, 10:56:33 AM »

Quote from: Thumper on August 06, 2021, 11:23:59 PM

Back in 1970 my best friend got a Plymouth Duster 340 and brought it over to show me and have me take it for a test drive. I looked at the shift knob which showed the typical 4 speed pattern, pushed the stick up and left and launched it ..... backwards.... at high speed. The transmission was actually a 3 speed but Rick put a 4 speed shift knob to look cool. Fortunately I didn't hit anything but that will get your attention quick.

What your friend did sounds stupid, but it was consistent with "hot" cars ca. 1970. That was an era of the appearance of performance even when the performance wasn't there. Hood scoops that were closed off. Same thing with "cooling" slots or scoops that didn't lead to anything that needed to be cooled. For example, the '69-70 Mustang fastbacks had fake cooling scoops at the beltline just forward of the rear wheels. The hood scoop on the Mach 1 was non-functional too.

The team that was developing the Boss 302 made a decision that there would be no non-functional frippery on the car, so they had to make a patch to cover up the hole where the fake cooling scoop went.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #2372 on:** August 07, 2021, 12:37:08 PM »

Wagamama Restaurant Entering Georgia Market With Star Metals Debut | What Now Atlanta

Interesting concept. This area is really up and coming, used to be a light industrial area that is changing fast.

The Dogwood Festival is today, months after the blooming, they cancelled last year.

You can overpay for mediocre food there, and gander at art. A lot of patrons looked rather heavy to me.

utee94 · « **Reply #2373 on:** August 07, 2021, 02:27:40 PM »

Quote from: CWSooner on August 07, 2021, 10:56:33 AM

What your friend did sounds stupid, but it was consistent with "hot" cars ca. 1970. That was an era of the appearance of performance even when the performance wasn't there. Hood scoops that were closed off. Same thing with "cooling" slots or scoops that didn't lead to anything that needed to be cooled. For example, the '69-70 Mustang fastbacks had fake cooling scoops at the beltline just forward of the rear wheels. The hood scoop on the Mach 1 was non-functional too.

The team that was developing the Boss 302 made a decision that there would be no non-functional frippery on the car, so they had to make a patch to cover up the hole where the fake cooling scoop went.

And the Boss looks WAY better than the Mach1, iMO. Clean and tight.

Of course, even cleaner and tighter and SLIMMER, were the 65-66 models. Those are my favorites. A '65 289 convertible is my dream car. Someday...

CWSooner · « **Reply #2374 on:** August 07, 2021, 04:25:35 PM »

As you may remember, I like the '65-66 models as well.

When I was teaching at West Point, ca. 1965, I would occasionally go driving on weekends, just to see the gorgeous countryside. I came across a clapped-out red '65 Mustang 2+2 sitting on a long driveway.

I thought about seeing if it could be had for a reasonable amount of money, but I would have had no place to put it and no cost-effective way of getting it to my next duty station.

Wish I had it now. With it and $30,000, I could have a really sweet car!

utee94 · « **Reply #2375 on:** August 07, 2021, 07:04:02 PM »

That's right, you and I are Gen1 Mustang Bros.

My mom had a '67 coupe, but she traded it in for a station wagon when her 3rd and final child was born. That 3rd child? Me. So it's all my fault.

CWSooner · « **Reply #2376 on:** August 07, 2021, 07:30:12 PM »

My 3rd car was a '67 fastback, 289, Autolite 4-bbl, automatic. It wasn't hot, and it wasn't nearly as nimble as my Datsun 2000 had been, but it was fun enough. I sort of beat the shit out of it, and I sold it for a pittance when I went into the Army in 1979.

I'd take it now in a heartbeat, but I really do like the '65-66 body style better. It was the cleanest, freshest styling of all the Mustangs. Almost everything since has been derivative of it. The exceptions would be the early Fox-bodied Mustangs, and they just didn't look all that great, IMO, in addition to not looking much like Mustangs.

That has it's benefits. Mustangs have always had a certain look, while Camaros never have. But it does limit what Ford can do with the styling 56 years later.

Thumper · « **Reply #2377 on:** August 07, 2021, 09:37:21 PM »

I had a couple of '65 notchbacks in my youth. Both hot rodded and clapped out, not good at all. Those Gen 1 mustangs were really just Falcons underneath.
That Boss 302 in your picture is the car that got away from me. When I went to buy my first new car, the Ford dealer had one on the lot in HullaBlue. No AC, no power steering, brakes, windows, nothing. Only options were an AM/FM radio and rear window louvers. Price $2,900. I had the money for the car but insurance for an 18 yo pony car owner in 1970 was $1000/yr. I still long for that Boss.
I nearly bought the Datsun 2000 but insurance wasn't much better.

utee94 · « **Reply #2378 on:** August 07, 2021, 11:39:31 PM »

That Datsun is a really pretty car.

And I don't mind the insides of a Mustang being a Falcon. I'm not much of a racer, so for me, it's what's on the outside that counts.

CWSooner · « **Reply #2379 on:** August 08, 2021, 12:31:18 AM »

Quote from: Thumper on August 07, 2021, 09:37:21 PM

I had a couple of '65 notchbacks in my youth. Both hot rodded and clapped out, not good at all. Those Gen 1 mustangs were really just Falcons underneath.
That Boss 302 in your picture is the car that got away from me. When I went to buy my first new car, the Ford dealer had one on the lot in HullaBlue. No AC, no power steering, brakes, windows, nothing. Only options were an AM/FM radio and rear window louvers. Price $2,900. I had the money for the car but insurance for an 18 yo pony car owner in 1970 was $1000/yr. I still long for that Boss.
I nearly bought the Datsun 2000 but insurance wasn't much better.

Those '69-70 Boss 302s were the closest things to race cars that Ford ever sold as street cars called Mustangs, as opposed to the '65-66 Shelby GT-350s.
I knew a guy in HS who had a '70 Boss 302 in Grabber Yellow.

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