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« Reply #2156 on: January 28, 2021, 05:26:47 PM »
1,4-butanedithiol is a super potent mix, much worse than butanethiol, IMHO.  I was doing organosulfur chemistry so I was used to bad smells.  This one was off the charts for me.  Dimethyl sulfoxide fascinated me, it actually has no smell when pure, it sublimes readily, but it reverts to small impurities of dimthehyl sulfide, which does smell, and sulfone, which does not, rather quickly.

My great discovery was a reaction that runs in circles, for a while.  It's of no practical use.  The conditions reduce a sulfoxide to a sulfide and then oxidize the sulfide back to a sulfoxide.  My boss wanted me to reduce sulfones, but no dice.

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« Reply #2157 on: January 28, 2021, 05:38:29 PM »
CD invented a (somewhat) perpetual motion device and nobody noticed...

I was also lucky enough to get to handle solid arsenic and solid phosphorous.  Good times.


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« Reply #2158 on: January 28, 2021, 06:10:56 PM »
Well, it got me a paper in Journal of Organic Chemistry, so there is that.

I don't think it was cited very much.

My other great inventions relate to low Tg thermoset polymers derived from high internal phase emulsions, which really rolls off the tongue.  And that actually did make it into a product.


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« Reply #2159 on: January 29, 2021, 09:43:32 AM »
Our sense of smell is really weird. By way of contrast, our eyes are basic photoreceptors tuned to a particular band of electromagnetic energy. Photons get focused on a given area, the energy causes the cells to fire, an electrical signal travels through a nerve, and the brain does its thing.

Smells come from basically airborne molecules. While a photon hitting our eye is either in band or out of band, molecules can be anything at all! The body goes through great lengths to arrange compounds in the body so they arrive at their receptor in just the right formation and conformation, but the nose just has to work with whatever gets breathed in.

If something called a "human" ever had a evolutionary use for the sense of smell, we lost that need too far back to even notice (any product touting "human pheremone" is crap. They might exist, but we can't detect them). However, the human brain has a great database of smells, and we quickly relate them to memories and emotional states in a much more intense manner than any other sense!

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« Reply #2160 on: January 29, 2021, 10:07:02 AM »
No doubt.

I stayed at an old hotel in France for many months while I was working there.  It had a really old, small elevator that had been retrofitted into the much-older building.  Whatever combinations of cleaning products, old wood, and whatever else was in that elevator, had a distinct but not unpleasant odor, although it didn't impact me at the time.

But many years later, I was getting onto a friend's old restored boat out on Lake Travis.  The cabin was the original all-wooden interior, and the smell in there launched me immediately back to my French hotel elevator from over a decade before.  It was remarkably acute.


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« Reply #2161 on: January 29, 2021, 10:09:17 AM »
I think our sense of smell helps us avoid eating bad food, spoiled rancid meat for example.

I find women have a better sense of smell and I wonder if in pregnancy that evolved to protect the fetus from pathogens.  Men could get sick and survive but a pregnant women could lose the baby by eating bad meat.

I let the wife taste the wine in restaurants, her sense of smell is much more acute than mine.  

I heard a seminar once that compared our noses to gas chromatographs, they operate in the same general way apparently.

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« Reply #2162 on: January 29, 2021, 10:10:50 AM »
We stayed in a small older hotel in Bordeaux three nights a while back.  We had to put our luggage on the elevator and take the stairs ourselves.  I think it took two trips to get our luggage up.  The elevator didn't seem very reliable anyway.

Small rooms but great location.

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« Reply #2163 on: January 29, 2021, 10:17:21 AM »
I think our sense of smell helps us avoid eating bad food, spoiled rancid meat for example.

I find women have a better sense of smell and I wonder if in pregnancy that evolved to protect the fetus from pathogens.  Men could get sick and survive but a pregnant women could lose the baby by eating bad meat.

I let the wife taste the wine in restaurants, her sense of smell is much more acute than mine. 

I heard a seminar once that compared our noses to gas chromatographs, they operate in the same general way apparently.
I used to let my girlfriends taste as much wine as possible

When I was in grade school sometimes the teacher would pass out tests etc which had been memographed
I used to love to smell a memographed sheet I havent really smelled anything quite like it since
They won't let me give blood anymore. The burnt orange color scares the hell out of the doctors.

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« Reply #2164 on: January 29, 2021, 11:52:06 AM »
I used to teach wine classes in Cincy, and I found the ladies generally had a better developed sense of smell.

It's also possible the husbands were just there to drink and didn't care.

I held the classes in the municipal building which had signs saying NO ALCOHOL, but the mayor was one of he participants and the chief of police came to one.


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« Reply #2165 on: January 29, 2021, 11:59:41 AM »
apparently, the mayor and the chief didn't smell anything wrong
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« Reply #2166 on: January 29, 2021, 12:12:26 PM »
Heh, no doubt, they enjoyed themselves.

Our mayor was the former President of the Ohio Senate.

Those wine classes were fun, a friend of mine took them over.

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« Reply #2167 on: January 29, 2021, 01:10:00 PM »
Now I'm thirsty

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« Reply #2168 on: January 29, 2021, 02:01:06 PM »
Our local liquor shop (or at least my favorite) did a couple of wine schools a while back. I enjoyed them greatly.

The object was to mostly expose the students to different variants of wine, explain where each predominantly came from, and what sort of characterized that variant. It gave me a lot of words that I think makes discussing it with others more relatable.

Oddly, it also helps me when building cocktails. I can more thoughtfully consider what each ingredient brings to the experience. 

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« Reply #2169 on: January 29, 2021, 02:08:03 PM »
I did some of that.  My favorite class which I did with the local Riedel rep was to serve the same wine in different glasses to show how it makes a difference.

That astonishes everyone who thinks the stem doesn't matter.

I also did a lot of blind tastings, like the same varietal at different price points.


 

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