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Boston is horrible.  Probably the worst drummer with any notoriety of that era, and I can't really tell you much about the rest of them because he's impossible to get past.

I have been chewing on this one.  I mean really?  Boston's drummer sucks?  And so Boston sucks?  You can't even enjoy Tom Scholz's sound and songcraft because of the patter in the background?

Might I suggest you listen to Gene Krupa records and abandon rock 'n' roll.  What kinda statement is that - Boston's drummer sucks.  Good Lord do you hate Phil Rudd?  Bun E. Carlos?

Wait, you say Aerosmith is good?  Ok I agree, but Joey Kramer?  He just flat kills Boston's drummer? (Sib Hashian?)

Boston is good.  The sound is good.  The tunes are good.  The drumming amply does it's job.  Just like Phil Rudd does his job.  Just like Neal Peart does his.

I don't get it - forget Boston man, their drummer sucks.  What?

That's like saying Whataburger sucks.  The fries suck.

No it's not.  It's like saying Whataburger sucks.  The Fanta Orange doesn't taste right.

I remember living in DFW and listening to KZEW and Q102.  I couldn't get Boys of Summer off the radio.  Maybe it's a good tune, it's decent I guess - but I could think of about 500 dozen better songs to burn out on an album rock station.

II've never really thought about the percussion for that group - was always focused on Scholz handiwork on synthesizer and guitar

I didn't realize that Boston's (main) drummer (SH) had died earlier this year.  Too bad. 

Of course the bigger stories this year were losing Prince and Tom Petty.  Huge losses.  But I guess as we all get older that these legends will keep checking out on us

Of course the bigger stories this year were losing Prince and Tom Petty.

I only acquired my full appreciation of Tom Petty over the last 2 decades.

Back in my younger rabble rousing days, I had the Damn The Torpedoes album (like any self-respecting enthusiast should), and I quite enjoyed the album - but that didn't mean I would run out and buy other TP albums.

Then later on I picked up Hard Promises.  Damn this is good I thought.  Then he came out with the Full Moon Fever album which was also great.  That was when I backtracked and bought all his stuff.

TP may not be for everybody, but he's got that thing you can't put your hands on - you just know it's there when you hear it.  It's the opposite of shallow and artificial.  It's deep and the real deal.  Not deep musically persay, but folksy deep I guess?  It's real.

Prince was at least in the class of the greatest guitar players of all time, he just didn't cut loose all that often like many who focus on it as a primary function.  he was also a heckuva prolific songwriter- not only for himself.  gotta give him credit for his contributions though i'm not the sort to sit and listen to him for extended periods. 

Tom Petty is authentic... that's the better word imHo... 

a good example is Chris Stapleton's new album lead song "millionaire"... it's a good song, and I appreciate his rendition... but the original artist (and writer) Kevin Welch (and who is a friend of mine) is 'authentic'... it's evident in the delivery, but i can't put my finger on exactly why.  All of Kevin's music is authentic, except for one which was sold to Garth Brooks (who changed some of the words and took shared ownership of writing because of) "pushing up daisies"- Garth's version, who'm he dedicated to his father, is presented with a lot more attachment than Kevin's, and seems more authentic... 

same argument for 'Hurt', between Cash's or Reznor's, Cash stole the show... I've heard it said Reznor was born to write that song, and Johnny was born to sing it... all of the studio theatrics of Reznor's original version detracts from the song, where Johnny's vibrato and aged chords rattle it out to where you flat out believe it.  

authenticity is where it's at.... somebody posted SRV- and THAT dude, when caught jammin', was absolutely authentic- 'life by the drop' and (Hendix's) 'little wing', both in acoustic, i could listen to back to back for days on end... even SRV playing little wing electric through that old tubed amp has some sort of transcendent quality to it that pulls you right into it and in a way reserved mostly for classical music.  

That's a good clip, utee

Speaking of good clips, check this out - two of my faves going at it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2QrNnURzqM

I was fortunate enough to get to see SRV perform quite a few times at various festivals, and even sneaking into a couple of bars underage, back in the day.  Just a great talent.

As far as Prince, I dunno how anyone can say they dunno, dog.  He's one of the best guitar players in the history of rock music, he can play pretty much any other instrument too, he's a great performer, and he's a talented and prolific songwriter as drew pointed out.  But to each his own I guess.

Speaking of Tom Petty and Prince (and Steve Winwood and Jeff Lynne) this performance was amazing, and if you want to see Prince really cut loose and shred it, watch his entire solo on the outro from about 3:20 on...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y

Seen this video a dozen times and it still leaves me in awe.