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Topic: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.

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CousinFreddie

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Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #322 on: November 30, 2017, 08:20:37 AM »
yeah Shiner but I remember well how much you enjoyed Mansiel leading the Aggies to victory including that Aggies cotton bowl win over the Sooners etc, and I don’t remember you worrying too much about JFF’s demeanor.

CW and I have also admitted right here before this present gathering of dogs, sharks and various sundry alphas that Baker has more than his share of jackassery.

And Id go further and say we’re all part jackasses.  Anyone who spends time talking about other sports teams and their fans in the way we do here, particularly for example on a rivalry weekend like OU-Texas, is guilty of it.  If you doubt that, go check the haiku or meme threads this past October.  Texas and Oklahoma fans being total jackasses to one another.  It’s fun.  I make no apologies.  

You tell me that if you were in Baker’s shoes and you had his talent and enthusiasm and team leadership, and you walk out to midfield and the other team refused to shake your hand in front of thousands in the stands and millions on the tube in the Standard way that you wouldn’t react?  If the other team was making that extra hit on you after you threw a pass and talking shit in your face that you’d turn the other cheek?  In football??  Heck you guys (and I) can’t even turn the other cheek when someone here says your team sucks.  

In fact as often as not, we’re those KU captains out at midfield egging it on.

Face it.  To varying degrees, we’re all jackasses.  And we’d love to be Baker Mayfield right about now.  


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« Reply #323 on: November 30, 2017, 08:33:25 AM »
Antagonizing and shit talking occur in every game, every weekend.  But I don't see guys flipping the other team off or grabbing their crotch on national TV in response to it.  What if you had a 10 year old son like I do watching the game... and he saw that?  So to answer your question, I'd like to believe I'd react like the other 99% of CFB players out there.... not the 1% that Mayfield appears to be a part of.

Obviously I liked Manziel's performance on the field.... but what you don't remember me doing is defending his jackassery off of it which is where his largely occurred.  It was embarrassing.... to the point (again) that I was glad to see him go when he left for the NFL early.  Think about that... our first Heisman winner since the 50's and most dynamic player in our school's history... and I was happy to see him go.  

And don't waste our time trying to compare the good natured ribbing we do here to making obscene gestures on TV.  We (like it or not) aren't held to the same standard, and there aren't millions of people watching us on ESPN.  

You're very much bordering on the mentality of "yeah he's an asshole... but he's a potential Heisman winner and may give us a MNC so it's all good".  That would be a shame.  Don't defend it.... call it what it is and move on.  
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« Reply #324 on: November 30, 2017, 09:23:29 AM »
Im thinking everybody that age is entitled to one mistake even if that mistake was done on national TV

To my knowledge he has not made a habit of doing this so unless he repeats it Im willing to give him a pass

Ol Johnny though would shoot himself in the foot reload and do it again which kinda separates him from the

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« Reply #325 on: November 30, 2017, 09:32:06 AM »
Kid spends his first 18-19 years growing up in Texas, acquires a dose of jackassery--a not unknown Texas character trait--goes to OU and, suddenly, "just like a typical Sooner."
I'm not seeing the confusion here.  Yes, he came from Texas.  Yes, he is one of our awnry bad apples.  Yes, he went to OU, like all our bad apples do.

Not just talking football players, btw.  Check the sooner student body contingent that comes from Texas.  Replete with rejection letters from UT, A&M, and sometimes even Tech.

And Shiner is a Horn just for knowing this?  No, he is a Texan.  We all know it.
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« Reply #326 on: November 30, 2017, 09:37:46 AM »
You're very much bordering on the mentality of "yeah he's an asshole... but he's a potential Heisman winner and may give us a MNC so it's all good".
Umm..  I don't see no bordering.  That's pretty much what he's saying.

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« Reply #327 on: November 30, 2017, 09:53:52 AM »
But in terms of Manziel and Mayfield:


If you just compare their college years, and if Mayfield rates a 10 on the bad guy scale, then I'll say Johnny rates a 9.5.


Both had scuffles with the law, both raised middle fingers on the gridiron, but only one hoisted a handful of jewels.


And outside of the antics, let's get real.  Baker is no Johnny Football.  JFF is likely the best I've ever seen.  And I take no glee in saying that.  Baker is a punk who couldn't shine at Tech because he wasn't surrounded by exceptional talent.  He's got that at OU.  Manziel would have taken any team just as far, or further than he took that mediocre Aggie squad.


Now I am leaving Johnny's post-college drama out of this equation.  Johnny is fighting addiction, and it has pretty much cost him millions by this point.  I doubt Baker will follow him in that regard.


But I suppose we'll hear even less about Baker's post-college life than we did Johnny's.  I see a Mayfield's Insurance office in Norman, Ok in the near future.
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« Reply #328 on: November 30, 2017, 11:55:07 AM »
Ya know, I don't remember all this supposed greatness of JFF.  

I don't think most here qualify for alpha male status.  Most of those guys are dicks, and I like y'all pretty well.  They also tend not to hang out on message boards.  And they mostly hate me.  Unless I'm more disliked here than I'm aware, it's tough to put y'all in that bin.   

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« Reply #329 on: November 30, 2017, 11:58:34 AM »
Ha, no matter how much white space you enter today, you ain't gettin' none.

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« Reply #330 on: November 30, 2017, 12:02:27 PM »
I don't think most here qualify for alpha male status.  Most of those guys are dicks, and I like y'all pretty well.  They also tend not to hang out on message boards.  And they mostly hate me.
I'm sure yer a good feller MDT.
And don't worry about CH's alpha proclamations.  He could shame your grandma in the kitchen.

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« Reply #331 on: November 30, 2017, 12:36:51 PM »
I'm not seeing the confusion here.  Yes, he came from Texas.  Yes, he is one of our awnry bad apples.  Yes, he went to OU, like all our bad apples do.

Not just talking football players, btw.  Check the sooner student body contingent that comes from Texas.  Replete with rejection letters from UT, A&M, and sometimes even Tech.

And Shiner is a Horn just for knowing this?  No, he is a Texan.  We all know it.
You're just being stupid here.

But in terms of Manziel and Mayfield:

If you just compare their college years, and if Mayfield rates a 10 on the bad guy scale, then I'll say Johnny rates a 9.5.

Both had scuffles with the law, both raised middle fingers on the gridiron, but only one hoisted a handful of jewels.

And outside of the antics, let's get real.  Baker is no Johnny Football.  JFF is likely the best I've ever seen.  And I take no glee in saying that.  Baker is a punk who couldn't shine at Tech because he wasn't surrounded by exceptional talent.  He's got that at OU.  Manziel would have taken any team just as far, or further than he took that mediocre Aggie squad.

Now I am leaving Johnny's post-college drama out of this equation.  Johnny is fighting addiction, and it has pretty much cost him millions by this point.  I doubt Baker will follow him in that regard.

But I suppose we'll hear even less about Baker's post-college life than we did Johnny's.  I see a Mayfield's Insurance office in Norman, Ok in the near future.
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« Reply #332 on: November 30, 2017, 12:56:15 PM »
'luv you fellers... NOT IN A SKIN ON SKIN WAY TO BE SURE.... 

but...

if'n anyone of you were an alpha, you'd have a competitive streak at least 16' wide (larger than most standard roads can handle) and if you were an alpha and beyond age 40, you'd look back at the struggle you had containing that, and emotion while reconciling it against good sense and class when you were 18~22 or so...   

some people race because they love it and that is all the motivation they need... some race for the competitiveness of the enterprise... both can be really good at it, and it's not like one is exclusive of the other... but the one's driven by competition? coupled with youth and immaturity? highly emotional? 

they act like johnny football... or baker mayfield.. or, like some of us did.. .

by the way, i ain't trying to be all philosophical at all... I just wanted to type up some proper paragraphs to see if my white space adjustments were/are working. 

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« Reply #333 on: November 30, 2017, 12:57:55 PM »
To dismiss my posts as stupid, while arguably being a convincing stance, still doesn't refute said stupidity.

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« Reply #334 on: November 30, 2017, 01:50:56 PM »
Heh!  You know what I'm talking about.  Some kid from Dallas does well (or badly, it doesn't really matter) at OU.  No sweat--he's from Baja Oklahoma, not from Texas.  I would almost swear I've seen you post comments to that effect.

But maybe not.  Maybe it's just the beta Horns who say stuff like that.

I put spaces between your paragraphs.  You're welcome.
Yeah, must be a beta.
I do have an antipathy for North Texas (Baja Oklahoma) and a disdain for Oklahoma and the general concept of Oklahomans in general (with the notable exceptions of individual Oklahomans I’ve actually gotten to know - like you, Thumper and Cousin Fred).  But as for OU, I have a begrudging respect appropriate for a hated rival.  The hatred is borne of  competitive resentment rather than contempt.
As for how I view players, I’d like to think I’m consistent regardless of where they play.
If they do something hateful or violent like rape women, beat women or beat people with baseball bats, I honestly have no respect for them as a human being.
If they do stupid things like get drunk, smoke weed, steal fish, grab their crotch, etc. , I’ll pretty much cop “a there but by the grace of God go I also” attitude.
I was dumb kid.  I’m not so sure my kids are smart.   Dumb is forgivable.  Hatefulness is dispicable.

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« Reply #335 on: November 30, 2017, 01:53:53 PM »
Your daughter is TEN now?  Geez man....nothing like a progeny update to remind us how old we're all getting.  

I found a work-around for the paragraph thing, when I remember to do it.  Type the message, then instead of hitting post, I hit preview, and the preview has been correct.  If it shows the correct space, I go ahead and hit post.  If it's showing that all paragraphs are crammed together, one of two things are next.  Either back in the text box all the words will be crammed together and I separate them again, or the text box looks correct.  In either case, I hit preview again, and almost always on the second try the preview will show the post will be correct.  

It takes a few extra seconds, and I usually forget to check it, but it's been working when I do it.  
@MikeDeTiger - get 'unused' to having to review the paragraph thing... I WHOOPED IT!
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