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Topic: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.

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« Reply #6034 on: August 10, 2025, 06:23:16 PM »
like the WNBA. pay em what they're worth
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« Reply #6035 on: August 11, 2025, 08:30:01 AM »
I'd guess the lazier 3-4  stars who hit the NIL lottery will put in just enough work to "get by".  Some won't even do that, but the rest probably think they can sneak around and do HS level 'work".  Maybe for many it makes sense, they probably lack NFL level ability/work ethic, maybe they are getting a few hundred thou for NIL they would never have seen before, they game the system to stay eligible and on the team.

I can see the logic in that.  Work just hard enough to be a 2-3 level player who never would start anyway without really busting your A, and then not good enough for the next level.

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« Reply #6037 on: August 12, 2025, 09:14:35 AM »
NIL management is just another factor in recruiting and team retention. Not just ensuring there's enough dollars, or allocating them, but more evaluating a player's commitment to the project alongside the payout.
If you're showing interest in a kid, he takes an official (or unofficial) visit, and seems to be generally happy with the program, gets along with the current players, and asks interested questions in the interviews, you can probably consider offers and NIL. If his uncle, brother, or agent shows up and starts off with a dollar figure, smile, shake his hand, and thank him for his time. 
NIL is "in addition to" a good cultural fit and complementary skills. Much like a colorful disciplinary record, I know schools will need to take some risks if their program isn't where they want it to be. Just like those head cases, there's a real danger they'll do more harm than good. A coach that brings in a player who loudly parades his compensation package through the locker room is asking to have anarchy on his team. 

With the free movement (that is, not being tied to your team for 4-5 years), there's a real danger that recruits take some of these early, large offers at "smaller" programs (Texas Tech, I'm looking at you) as placeholders. If a better program or better deal surfaces, well, that first commitment didn't mean much anyhow. 

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« Reply #6038 on: August 12, 2025, 09:17:31 AM »
Tough to turn down hundreds of thousands in differences when a kid is 18, and maybe his parents have been struggling.

Offer A is ideal fit, good program, development solid, etc.  $100 K.

Offer B is mediocre fit, no track record of development really, etc.  $$600 K.


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« Reply #6039 on: August 12, 2025, 09:31:37 AM »
Tough to turn down hundreds of thousands in differences when a kid is 18, and maybe his parents have been struggling.

Offer A is ideal fit, good program, development solid, etc.  $100 K.

Offer B is mediocre fit, no track record of development really, etc.  $$600 K.


Yup.

Can't blame anyone for taking the more immediate compensation, but sometimes it's not going to be in their long-term best interest.  

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« Reply #6040 on: August 12, 2025, 09:32:36 AM »
Tough to turn down hundreds of thousands in differences when a kid is 18, and maybe his parents have been struggling.

Offer A is ideal fit, good program, development solid, etc.  $100 K.

Offer B is mediocre fit, no track record of development really, etc.  $$600 K.


From the kid's perspective, absolutely! All else being equal, perhaps the coach of Team B is looking for a catalyst to gin up some excitement and attract other talent. The outsize offer is worth it.
I'm talking from a program's perspective. I know that a top talent player really likes my program. He's been on visits, we've talked, and he seems like a great fit. He's also in the same position with 2 other programs on more or less equal standing. I might consider the value of my NIL offer to help "break the tie". 
When a kid's name is showing up on media sites like ESPN for NIL discussions, that's a big red flag. At the end of the season, my other players are going to be comparing themselves to him. One freshman OL who made headlines for his deal will draw comparisons from the other OL. If they feel they outperformed him, I'm in a situation where I've got a lot of unhappy players with their hands out. 

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« Reply #6041 on: August 12, 2025, 11:37:37 AM »
UNL AD had a very candid state of the program press conference last week.

Said allocating dollars to players will be up to the General Manager and the coach

General manager and coach will be reviewed & graded annually on ROI for each player
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