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Topic: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.

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Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #2296 on: July 22, 2021, 04:35:43 PM »
At times, complaints are made, and threats, to get action someone wants.
Except for the most likely outcome of this particular empty threat is a school like ISU doing a quick panic deal with another conference and ending the Big 12 by themselves.

Even so, there's no way Chris del Conte would go along with this jape. He's got enough 11am kickoffs on his own plate.

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Re: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.
« Reply #2297 on: July 22, 2021, 07:04:25 PM »
Meh, if ISU gets a tody invite, they would go anyway I think.  Otherwise they will hold and wait.

I used to take my kids out to eat when I didn't feel like cooking dinner (which was often).  I'd tell them "We're going to bob evans."  If they whined about it, the rule was they had to propose an alternative.  It shut them up quickly.

If a kid whines, force them to provide a viable alternative.

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« Reply #2298 on: July 22, 2021, 07:27:32 PM »
Boren is an effective leader. Effective leaders don't make big decisions on momentary passion, no matter how intense. The chafing at an 11am kickoff is understandable, but no reason to blow up a league.

The Big 12 works with 10, but not with less. Back when TAMU, NU, and Mizzou left, the rest of the league had to agree that they were all staying. If even one more member said no, the league was over. It's existed the same way ever since. No path to growth, always one step away from collapse.

If today's 5:00 meeting concludes with Texas and OU agreeing that they're staying (likely phrased as "this was all rumor and never true"), then the league is no more stable than they were last week or last year.

This only ever ends one way.
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« Reply #2299 on: July 22, 2021, 07:38:19 PM »
TV money “ saved “ the XII last time. Remember, Fox or whoever the tv networks were kept the tv money the same even with fewer members. 

I almost think the Big 12 would survive, albeit as a much weakened conference. Simply because I don’t see any alternatives for the state schools that are left. oSU, KU, KSU, TX TECH, WV, and ISU. Then they would add UH and somebody else to get back to Ten, and then throw in the best remaining AAC teams like Louisville and ?  

Would never be the same as it was but I just don’t see any of those schools going to a better situation. 

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« Reply #2300 on: July 23, 2021, 10:11:55 AM »
Except for the most likely outcome of this particular empty threat is a school like ISU doing a quick panic deal with another conference and ending the Big 12 by themselves.

Even so, there's no way Chris del Conte would go along with this jape. He's got enough 11am kickoffs on his own plate.
hah, don't worry.  ISU isn't getting a better offer
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« Reply #2301 on: July 23, 2021, 05:10:10 PM »
Wow I'm out of town for a few days and all these rumors start swirling.  I'll be out of town again for a few says starting Sunday so I expect all of the poop to hit the fan early next week.

Curiouser and curiouser.

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« Reply #2302 on: July 24, 2021, 07:52:18 AM »
I thought it just a rumor at first, but it appears to have legs.  I'd guess it's likely to happen and soon.

Still a chance it won't.

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« Reply #2303 on: July 24, 2021, 09:58:28 AM »
Yeah it's definitely not getting shot down and denied by TPTB at Texas or OU, as I'd expect to happen if it were completely baseless.

Also, it was Aggie insiders that broke it.  Like ANY conference move, these things happen in the background for months and months, long before any outsider gets wind of it.

This discussion is WAY down the path, that's for certain.  Any current reports of "Texas and OU reach out to the SEC" are likely 6 months to a year, too late.

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« Reply #2304 on: July 24, 2021, 11:05:16 AM »
Yeah, I'd guess it's a 90% "done deal", things like timing and money might be yet to sort.

It turns some of UGA's OOC opponents into conference games, if all that holds.


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« Reply #2305 on: July 24, 2021, 11:45:18 AM »
The #1 thing is we now have great comedy for the offseason.  The Aggies are leading the way currently.

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« Reply #2306 on: July 24, 2021, 11:53:51 AM »
There is still the matter of the vote. For obvious reasons I’m assuming A&M would have to be left in the dark during much of the discussions. No sense in letting the cat out of the bag unless you have the 11 yes votes. Either that or we knew awhile back but chose to disclose the move ahead of schedule for strategic reasons. 

One more thing. Our old Prez, Loftin acts like he had a lot to do with our move. He’s a goofy sucker, an academic type. It’s long been whispered that he was just along for the ride but for some reason he craves the spot light and takes much of the credit. I’m not trying to discredit the man but don’t you find it curious that not long after we made the move East ( and he made a lot of publicity about his role ) we sent him packing?  Now he’s acting like some kind of insider, talking about gentleman’s agreements and all types of nonsense. He hasn’t been our president for close to a decade, so I’m not sure he’s really in the know. 


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« Reply #2307 on: July 24, 2021, 12:15:01 PM »
There is still the matter of the vote. For obvious reasons I’m assuming A&M would have to be left in the dark during much of the discussions. No sense in letting the cat out of the bag unless you have the 11 yes votes. Either that or we knew awhile back but chose to disclose the move ahead of schedule for strategic reasons.

One more thing. Our old Prez, Loftin acts like he had a lot to do with our move. He’s a goofy sucker, an academic type. It’s long been whispered that he was just along for the ride but for some reason he craves the spot light and takes much of the credit. I’m not trying to discredit the man but don’t you find it curious that not long after we made the move East ( and he made a lot of publicity about his role ) we sent him packing?  Now he’s acting like some kind of insider, talking about gentleman’s agreements and all types of nonsense. He hasn’t been our president for close to a decade, so I’m not sure he’s really in the know.


the vote must be a done deal else why go through so much planning
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« Reply #2308 on: July 24, 2021, 12:22:29 PM »
What is really amazing is how the announcement shook up the entire CFB landscape.  Almost every conference and every team is now evaluating how this affects them.  If the SEC deal falls through, the B1G and ACC are standing ready with invitations.  There are rumblings the B1G may go after USC & UCLA.

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« Reply #2309 on: July 24, 2021, 12:22:38 PM »
There's zero chance that the Texas/OU and the SEC would let it get this far, if they didn't have everything lined up and ready to go.

Way too many actual insiders now, coming forth with reports that it'll be a done deal next week.

I'm surprised, I didn't think this would happen, especially not with a 12-team playoff that makes it even easier for B12 teams to get into it.  But, money talks.


 

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