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Topic: Texas vs TCU

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BrownCounty

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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #70 on: November 05, 2019, 09:11:28 AM »
UT is favored by 6 against the cats

You gotta be kidding me.

K-State is gonna roll us.  The K-State locker room has what we don't have.  Fight.  Fire.  Piss. Vinegar.

Oh, and coaching.

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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #71 on: November 05, 2019, 09:27:05 AM »
You gotta be kidding me.

K-State is gonna roll us.  The K-State locker room has what we don't have.  Fight.  Fire.  Piss. Vinegar.

Oh, and coaching.


I disagree, this Texas team has plenty of fight.  They're just not very good.  Especially the defense and special teams.

I think LSU and Oklahoma are proving to be much better teams than Texas, yet the Horns hung in there 'til the end.  The KU near-loss was atrocious but the team didn't pack it in, they kept fighting and kicked a last-second game-winner.  I guess maybe you could say the team quit toward the end of the TCU game?  The defense certainly seemed to, but they also just flat-out suck, so I don't think I can pin it solely on attitude.


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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #72 on: November 05, 2019, 10:28:22 AM »
The more we have the benefit of hindsight, the more Strong's showing at Lul'ville appears to have been more related to Teddy Bridgewater.  I can't believe the Saints reeled off 5 wins and one of those at Seattle without Brees.  

Reminds me of when LSU hired Curly Hallman in the 90's because of his success at Southern Miss.  You who are old enough and paid attention remember what happened to LSU on account of that.  Oops, turns out Hallman sucked, he just happened to have some kid at USM named Favre.  

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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #73 on: November 05, 2019, 11:05:05 AM »
Teddy has a noodle arm, but that's good enough at Louisville1
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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #74 on: November 05, 2019, 11:37:32 AM »
You gotta be kidding me.

K-State is gonna roll us.  The K-State locker room has what we don't have.  Fight.  Fire.  Piss. Vinegar.

Oh, and coaching.

No team is ever as good as they seem nor as bad as they seem

We have a good fit against KS

and incidentally UT has no lack of will to win

youre such a bandwagon fan


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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #75 on: November 05, 2019, 11:49:25 AM »
I'm putting more credence in the (hopefully) four returning defensive starters, plus Jordan Whittington, to change Texas' fortunes.


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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #76 on: November 05, 2019, 11:51:22 AM »
I'm putting more credence in the (hopefully) four returning defensive starters, plus Jordan Whittington, to change Texas' fortunes.


Its amazing what getting back 5 starters will do
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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2019, 11:55:31 AM »
Teddy has a noodle arm, but that's good enough at Louisville1

Evidently good enough in New Orleans too.  

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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #78 on: November 05, 2019, 11:56:07 AM »
Its amazing what getting back 5 starters will do


Yeah, no kidding.

At least nobody f**king boo'd your players when they got injured for a month.  

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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #79 on: November 05, 2019, 01:24:05 PM »
The KU near-loss was atrocious but the team didn't pack it in, they kept fighting and kicked a last-second game-winner.

Lack of fight spared us a 4 TD victory over Kansas.

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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #80 on: November 05, 2019, 04:25:18 PM »
Lack of fight spared us a 4 TD victory over Kansas.
Nah, having a really shitty defense and even shittier special teams cost us a 4 TD victory over Kansas.

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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2019, 04:27:10 PM »

Yeah, no kidding.

At least nobody f**king boo'd your players when they got injured for a month. 
I sure hope the guy who keeled over at the same time as his teammate, then popped right up when he saw another dude took a dive on the same play, recovered quickly.  Thoughts and prayers for him and his family.

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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #82 on: November 06, 2019, 01:08:45 AM »
I liked Charlie Strong, and I think if we would have stuck with him, he would have eventually learned to win games at Texas. Let's be honest though. He never was well liked by a majority of the power brokers at Texas. Steve Patterson wasn't popular, and Strong was a "whaddya mean Saban said no?" stopgap.


I disagree.  Trust me, I've seen a lot of baaad football and severely under performing coaches (see Texas A&M under Dennis Franchione, Mike Sherman, and Kevin Sumlin) over the last 20 years, and Strong was definitely in that category.  Undisciplined, finding ways to lose, making the same stupid mistakes over and over.  Heck, didn't they lose a game by straight up missing the XP at the end?  Franchione almost lost to ARMY, and did lose to Baylor, when Baylor was bad.  Sometimes it's not just a talent gap, but that's hard to quantify.  

Since I've become a college football fan in the mid-90's I've made an observation:  A CFB coach, for the most part, will be all he's ever going to be by year 3.  There are a few cases where coaches have been extremely mediocre for 3-5 years and then suddenly broke the ceiling of 9-10 wins, but for the most part if they're not winning big by year 3 they probably never will.  

I admit my logic is flawed because so few coaches will stick around, even voluntarily or involuntarily after either a successful 3 year stint at a smaller school or an unsuccessful 3 year stint at a Helmet school.  See Herman, Tom and Sumlin, Kevin at UH for the successful part.  Or Ron Zook and Charlie Strong for the unsuccessful part.  

The stats get even more skewed at the big time programs like Ohio St and OU.  But when I think of all the majorly successful coaches most of them were winning 9-10 games by year three and most importantly, consistently winning 9-10 games.  

The one exception I'm going to make is for a HC to take over a highly successful program.  If a new HC takes over you have to give him 3-4 years to figure out how good he really is because a lot of teams are riding on the skills of the previous HC for a few years after he leaves.  For example, Lincoln Riley at OU right now is considered one of the best but he's mostly doing it with players Bob Stoops recruited and developed.  Of course he's still got them rolling in year 3 but IMO he hasn't faced real adversity yet because the schedule just isn't that tough.  Still, losing to a not-that-great KSU squad showed some kinks in the armor.  



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Re: Texas vs TCU
« Reply #83 on: November 06, 2019, 07:23:53 AM »
How much is the coach and how much is the QB?

A great CFB QB can mask a lot of weaknesses otherwise against decent but not great teams.  Most of the top teams have a great QB, some of them have what appear to be great coaches, but the latter might come from the former.

 

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