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Topic: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #378 on: January 24, 2023, 04:51:07 PM »
Tickets are going for $150 for a big game? amazing
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #379 on: January 24, 2023, 04:52:35 PM »
Seemingly, it would be far more for LSU than the $5.1 mil the Allstate Kickoff Classic paid them. 

That's why I feel like I'm missing something.  There has to be a reason, probably a financial one, that LSU does games like these. 

Or maybe they're all puppets controlled by the idiots in the state legislature. 

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I mean, that's definitely the case, but they've generally been very profitable puppets.  
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #380 on: January 24, 2023, 05:02:25 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on January 24, 2023, 04:51:07 PM
Tickets are going for $150 for a big game? amazing

What did LSU tix go for when the Tigers played in DKR in 2019?  Had covid not screwed us out of the return game, I can see the Longhorns running our tickets up to near that on face, at least for the better seats.  Especially if they were expected to be good and/or ranked.  

There's a pretty wide swing in the face value of our tickets based on location in the stadium.  
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #381 on: January 24, 2023, 05:13:42 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on January 24, 2023, 04:16:38 PM
That might be your average home game, but what is your max home game?

I don't know how it works at LSU (or anywhere else), but at UT, the face value of the ticket is dramatically higher for a big name, than it is for, say, Kanas.  Face value for a UT home game ticket to see a big OOC opponent like FSU would be around $150.  To see Kansas, more like $60.

So, 100,000 seats x $150 per ticket, brings you to $15M gross in gate receipts alone, without counting concessions, parking, merchandise, etc. That's the opportunity cost of losing a home game at UT.

*Edit-- I realize the gross gate receipts are revenue and not profit, but I'm assuming that excluding all of the concessions and other gross revenues roughly offsets the cost of operating the stadium for a home game.
At OU, the official ticket price is the same for all games. But some of the less-in-demand games feature discounts. For example, for one of the least-demanded home conference games each year, OU offers tickets discounted 50% as a teacher-appreciation promotion. And you don't have to be a teacher. You can be a family member or friend. Or casual acquaintance. Or in the same ZIP code, for all I know, as I never had to verify my teacher status.
Also, SEC programs seem to offer more tickets at lower official prices than Big 12 programs do. Or at least that was the case a few years ago.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #382 on: January 24, 2023, 05:32:40 PM »
Quote from: MikeDeTiger on January 24, 2023, 05:02:25 PM
What did LSU tix go for when the Tigers played in DKR in 2019?  Had covid not screwed us out of the return game, I can see the Longhorns running our tickets up to near that on face, at least for the better seats.  Especially if they were expected to be good and/or ranked. 

There's a pretty wide swing in the face value of our tickets based on location in the stadium. 

I don't actually remember, a buddy gave me one for free.  I haven't had season tickets since... 2017, I think?
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #383 on: January 24, 2023, 05:47:44 PM »
I couldn't find the right article, but one claimed the NS games make more money for a team than a H&H series.

They are easier to schedule of course.  The OU-UGA series was slated for 2023 and then 2030 or something for the return.
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« Reply #384 on: January 24, 2023, 06:05:59 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 24, 2023, 05:47:44 PM
I couldn't find the right article, but one claimed the NS games make more money for a team than a H&H series.

They are easier to schedule of course.  The OU-UGA series was slated for 2023 and then 2030 or something for the return.
Some helmet teams charge a lot less than Texas does, for tickets.  I'd believe it could be possible for those teams, to make more off the neutral site games.

I'd be very surprised if they paid more to Texas, than a home game makes, for the same caliber of opponent.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #385 on: January 24, 2023, 06:15:25 PM »
Yeah, I see UGA ticket prices are $61, but you have to donate to the Hartman Fund to get them.

It's pretty obscure how it works.  You donate and hope it was enough ...

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« Reply #386 on: January 24, 2023, 06:28:23 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on January 24, 2023, 06:15:25 PM
Yeah, I see UGA ticket prices are $61, but you have to donate to the Hartman Fund to get them.

It's pretty obscure how it works.  You donate and hope it was enough ...

"Yeah pal, the tickets are $61."

"Here's $61."

"Well, see, first you need to pay $200 to our foundation thingy."

"So tickets are really $261."

"No, I just said, tickets are $61."  

...

Our last AD was a poon at playing and winning the PR wars, hiring coaches, negotiating, etc., but was very good at making money.  He slowly nickel and dimed everything until the average fan was basically priced out of football gameday experiences.  The current guy seems to have made a few small moves back the other way, thankfully.  

You still have to bow to TAF and kiss the ring, but they no longer require the sacrifice of a virgin and a goat.  
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #387 on: January 24, 2023, 11:08:56 PM »
I'm sure the merchants in the dallas area love the red river game held in the stadium

I'm sure the merchants near the campus in Austin and Norman hate it
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #388 on: January 25, 2023, 01:14:49 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on January 24, 2023, 11:08:56 PM
I'm sure the merchants in the dallas area love the red river game held in the stadium

I'm sure the merchants near the campus in Austin and Norman hate it
The ones in Norman certainly do.
I hope that OU does not listen to them on this particular subject.
Re the donations that MDT mentioned, OU does the same thing. All tickets are priced the same, but the more you donate, the better season-ticket seats you can get.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #389 on: January 25, 2023, 09:27:31 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on January 24, 2023, 11:08:56 PM
I'm sure the merchants in the dallas area love the red river game held in the stadium

I'm sure the merchants near the campus in Austin and Norman hate it

Merchants in Austin have two weekends of ACL Festival, 2 weeks of SXSW Music Festival, 3 days of Formula 1, all of which bring in a lot more business than a UT home football game ever could.  Plus literally dozens of other festivals and events throughout the year.  It's not 1982 anymore, Austin is a metro area of over 2 million people, the days of the local merchants having any influence are long past.

Can't speak for Norman,OK of course, but local merchants will never be a driving force from the Texas side.  The big money and their luxury suites, on the other hand...
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #390 on: January 25, 2023, 10:10:40 AM »
College towns smaller than Austin depend more on the university events obviously for income, but my GUESS is pure student spending outweighs any of that.  Athens wouldn't really exist without UGA.  Take out every football game and it would still exist.  I'm sure the merchants like home games, the city gets crowded with folks, but just having students there fills coffers pretty well also.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #391 on: January 25, 2023, 12:08:00 PM »
That's how I felt about College Station in Texas.  I'm pretty sure the university came first and the town grew around it, and I always thought if the university blipped out of existence the economy would crumble and it would go back to being a giant cow pasture.  
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