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Topic: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2022, 09:19:23 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 30, 2022, 09:11:11 AM
we can hope

probably a bowl game

I'd REEEAALLLLY like to upset the Sooners in Lincoln this Sept.

might have scoreboard a while

Good luck! I'll say that a Sooner loss never gets me down... ;)
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2022, 04:16:11 PM »
CFB is entering another phase of realignment.  Apparently USC and UCLA to the Big 10.  It really doesn't make much sense.  They could probably do the same thing with some clever scheduling.  It's not like most of the PAC is very difficult anyways.  

Wonder what this will do with regards to the reconfigured SEC?  
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2022, 05:09:27 PM »
Man, I'll be honest. I've completely lost the vision of whatever these conferences (ever more loosely defined term) are building.

I know full well that there's method to the madness. I'm certain they're talking with their media partners, and that the Big10 and SEC are constructing Two Towers (tm) to maximize revenue in college football. It seems that, when they're done building, there's going to be "Big Time College Football" and "amateur athletics at some universities".

Once we get conferences so large that a kid can sign and exhaust his eligibility without playing part of that conference, I'm not certain the model really holds up. However, like I said, I guess the PTB know what they're trying to do. I've lost the ability to follow their calculations, and hence make predictions.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2022, 05:48:56 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on June 30, 2022, 04:16:11 PM
CFB is entering another phase of realignment.  Apparently USC and UCLA to the Big 10.  It really doesn't make much sense.  They could probably do the same thing with some clever scheduling.  It's not like most of the PAC is very difficult anyways. 

Wonder what this will do with regards to the reconfigured SEC? 
It's the difference between $30M/year and $90M/year.  There's no way to make that up in scheduling.

Money runs the entire sport.  It has for a while, but it's escalating ever more quickly.

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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2022, 11:14:28 PM »
they are conferences in TV media contracts only

no need and no way to regularly play all the other teams under the TV contract

the TV guys will soon be making the schedules to matchup the best teams according to TV ratings to make them the most $$$

therefore, Minnesooota may never play Wisconsin again, but Wisconsin might play USC every season

making Wisconsin vs Texas almost impossible
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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2022, 12:02:21 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 30, 2022, 11:14:28 PM
making Wisconsin vs Texas almost impossible

Sad but true.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2022, 08:23:27 AM »
The idea that TV guys will set schedules sounds true, even more than it is today.  We already have these "preseason bowl games" like Oregon-UGA, those pairings are made for TV.  Maybe we are reaching the point where there are not actual conferences as we understand the term, just mass grouping of teams that play each other once a decade.

How about a four team playoff to determine conference champions?

That's a way to back into a 16 game playoff, in effect.

Meh.  We are not amused.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2022, 02:36:15 PM »
So, it still appears that USC and UCLA will join the B1G for the 2024 football season. And I see no movement in the OU-Texas departure from the Big 12, so I guess it not happen until the summer of 2025.

I did not want to see OU join the SEC, for reasons that I have laid out in the past.  But compared to the SoCal schools joining the B1G, OU and Texas making the move to the SEC is the height of reasonableness.

The State of Texas was already within the SEC footprint, and the State of Oklahoma was already bordered by three states in the SEC footprint.

By contrast, it is 1500 road miles from the B1G's current western outpost in Lincoln, and you drive through the intervening states of Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and Nevada along the way. That's more than doubling the span of a conference that already stretches 1300 miles from Piscataway to Lincoln.

The B1G will surely get more video-rights money with USC and UCLA, but I wonder if it will be worth it, because there will certainly be extra costs--financial and otherwise--as well.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2022, 03:47:46 PM »
you can buy a lot of plane tickets with 10 million dollars
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2022, 04:04:11 PM »
Yes.

But you can't buy time.

And I say that having made over the past several years all the arguments I could think of to convince OU fans that trying to get into the B1G would be a good thing, despite the additional travel costs, time, etc., in comparison to joining the SEC.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #38 on: July 21, 2022, 06:56:36 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on July 18, 2022, 02:36:15 PM
So, it still appears that USC and UCLA will join the B1G for the 2024 football season. And I see no movement in the OU-Texas departure from the Big 12, so I guess it not happen until the summer of 2025.

I did not want to see OU join the SEC, for reasons that I have laid out in the past.  But compared to the SoCal schools joining the B1G, OU and Texas making the move to the SEC is the height of reasonableness.

The State of Texas was already within the SEC footprint, and the State of Oklahoma was already bordered by three states in the SEC footprint.

By contrast, it is 1500 road miles from the B1G's current western outpost in Lincoln, and you drive through the intervening states of Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and Nevada along the way. That's more than doubling the span of a conference that already stretches 1300 miles from Piscataway to Lincoln.

The B1G will surely get more video-rights money with USC and UCLA, but I wonder if it will be worth it, because there will certainly be extra costs--financial and otherwise--as well.

I think there's zero chance Texas and OU remain in the B12 until 2025. 
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2022, 12:22:27 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 21, 2022, 06:56:36 PM
I think there's zero chance Texas and OU remain in the B12 until 2025.
I hope you're right.
I'm sure that--even though everybody is saying "2025"--there is much behind-the-scenes negotiating for an early exit.
But I can't get these factors out of my head:
-- The Big 12 has little incentive to play nice on an early out. In addition to all the revenue issues, a 2025 departure allows for a clean conference scheduling process. The newbies start conference play in 2023, so that year and 2024 make for a home-and-home cycle. OU and UT leave after the 2024 season, and a new home-and-home cycle begins.
-- Maybe UT can print its own money, but money is surely a factor with OU.
If you were betting, would you put your money on 2023 or 2024?  2023 would be better from the Big 12's perspective for conference scheduling.
I wonder if the SEC has a preference.
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2022, 12:28:13 PM »
the SEC's preference is to add more and better content for the TV network honks ASAP
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Re: OU-UT Move to SEC in 2024?
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2022, 04:00:36 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 22, 2022, 12:28:13 PM
the SEC's preference is to add more and better content for the TV network honks ASAP
No doubt that's true.
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