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Topic: OT-- What song's on your mind right now?

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Re: OT-- What song's on your mind right now?
« Reply #3262 on: Today at 11:06:56 AM »
When you rip somebody off, rip off someone great, I always say. 
Guess I won't be getting ripped off then :cool2:



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« Reply #3263 on: Today at 11:25:40 AM »
Another one of those mixed bags.  I like the music but I struggle to get past Dr. John's voice.

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« Reply #3264 on: Today at 11:30:54 AM »
Bobby Dylan,John Prine, Tom Waits & Neil Young would like a word with you. Oh you could throw in Steve Perry too ;D
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« Reply #3265 on: Today at 11:31:46 AM »
I can't stand Dylan's voice.  

My favorite Bob Dylan songs are the ones other people cover.  

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« Reply #3266 on: Today at 11:33:54 AM »
When he's in the studio I like Bobby's stuff. It's when he's live and sounds like he's mixing Stoli mudslides with Nyquil it becomes irksome
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« Reply #3267 on: Today at 11:37:39 AM »
Another one of those mixed bags.  I like the music but I struggle to get past Dr. John's voice.
You're a tough nut to crack.  You understandably dislike guys with horrible voices like Bob Dylan and Dr. John, but you also dislike guys with fantastic voices like Dennis DeYoung.  There's just no pleasing you at all.


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« Reply #3268 on: Today at 11:40:33 AM »
Still probably easier than setting up Terry Bozzio's "big kit". No idea how many pieces it is, but I understand it takes over 20 DW9000 pedals to trigger it.
He played and toured with Frank Zappa for a spell 👍

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« Reply #3269 on: Today at 11:54:34 AM »
You're a tough nut to crack.  You understandably dislike guys with horrible voices like Bob Dylan and Dr. John, but you also dislike guys with fantastic voices like Dennis DeYoung.  There's just no pleasing you at all.

I'm a tough crowd.  

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« Reply #3270 on: Today at 11:54:55 AM »
He played and toured with Frank Zappa for a spell 👍

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Zappa, being at his heart a jazz man, was a stickler for perfect rhythm - and oddly complicated ones at that.
There's an apocryphal story about Bozzio entering the rehearsal hall where Frank had placed the sheet music for his new composition "The Black Page", allegedly so named because the sheer volume of notes made the sheet music look completely black.

Bozzio was eating a sandwich, put it down on the stand next to himself, picked up his sticks and started playing it perfectly. Frank walked in and gave him a look of annoyance. Bozzio shrugged, traded one stick for his sandwich, and took a bite - all while continuing to execute every note on the page.

Of course, he was also "The Devil" onstage in "T1tt1es and Beer". Married for a while to Dale Bozzio (who turned acrylic domes and electrical tape into an entire wardrobe), they teamed with Warren Cucurullo (another Zappa alumnus name checked by Moon Unit's vocals in "Catholic Girls" from the operatic album "Joe's Garage") to form "Missing Persons".

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« Reply #3272 on: Today at 12:02:02 PM »
He played and toured with Frank Zappa for a spell 👍

Yep.  In fact, he was the original recipient of Zappa's "Black Page," a famously difficult piece of drum notation Zappa wrote, seemingly out of annoyance and malevolence, to torture drummers.  Bozzio played it at that clinic I mentioned.  Sounded like crap, not because he played it badly, but because it wasn't written to be musical.  It was just an exercise in rhythmic torture.....difficult for difficulty's sake.  Bozzio lives in Austin, but I never ran into him again.  Not that I tried.  I knew a guy who took lessons from him, but I never tried to wrangle a meeting, and I probably couldn't have afforded to take lessons from him.  

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Ain't scared.  I can handle utee's wrath.  Worst he can really do is feed me cow tongue.  

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« Reply #3273 on: Today at 12:15:34 PM »
@utee94 , this was on my mind to share with you since I figured as a bit of a hidden gem, this album and the songs therein might be previously unknown to you.  This one in particular, I've thought for years was Steve Lukather and EVH.  Welp, mind = blown, world = rocked, everything I thought I knew is upside down.  I swore I read that in the album credits, and it sounds like EVH to me, but it's not.  If you're able to hear this in discernible stereo, the left channel is Steve Lukather, the right channel is Steve Stevens (of Top Gun theme fame, channeling his best EVH impersonation imo), and f*** me, the center channel is not even real guitar, according to nerds on the internet I know.  They say it's Jan Hammer on.....synth.  I'm still skeptical that a synth in 1989 can sound that much like a guitar, and especially some of the effects and "extras" I hear on it particular to guitar rigs that I've never heard a synth produce.....but wtf do I know.  I admit it doesn't make sense that two guitar players are separately panned left and right and then one of them also gets a middle balance (it would be Luke......it definitely isn't Stevens)

Apparently I correctly remember that EVH is on this album, playing bass on several tracks, of all things, but not on guitar here.  Either I'm getting old or I just failed to reed goode back when I got this.  Anyway, here's Luke and not-Eddie:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB3v4rvuAPY

Very cool, I've never heard of it and I definitely like it.

Reminds me of a lot of the other guitar-forward music coming out around the same time, late 80s and early 90s.  Jeff Beck Guitar Shop, local Austin favorite Eric Johnson, and handful of others.


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Re: OT-- What song's on your mind right now?
« Reply #3274 on: Today at 12:43:13 PM »
Since I'm now infected with the Dennis DeYoung earworm, here's one I remember that I like:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QumxOQganfo


Pretty sure a lot of their stuff was before I was even born.  Not sure how I even know songs like this, but it probably was on the radio or something.  

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« Reply #3275 on: Today at 12:47:50 PM »
Zappa, being at his heart a jazz man, was a stickler for perfect rhythm - and oddly complicated ones at that.
There's an apocryphal story about Bozzio entering the rehearsal hall where Frank had placed the sheet music for his new composition "The Black Page", allegedly so named because the sheer volume of notes made the sheet music look completely black.

Bozzio was eating a sandwich, put it down on the stand next to himself, picked up his sticks and started playing it perfectly. Frank walked in and gave him a look of annoyance. Bozzio shrugged, traded one stick for his sandwich, and took a bite - all while continuing to execute every note on the page.


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQt2inyxNNg


There's a lot of space in it, so it almost seems like "Black page" was more a reference to the severity of difficulty Zappa imbued it with, more than the sheer amount of notes.  BUT, I've seen the sheet music for this, and there is a crap-ton of ink on it, so, there's that.  Or it could be both.  I don't know the real reason it's called that.  My main point is to allege that this just isn't a musical or feel-good solo.  It's just......hard.  

 

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