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utee94 · « **Reply #1904 on:** December 12, 2023, 04:34:37 PM »

I can't remember exactly, but I probably heard SRV's version first. Then when I heard Jimi's original, I probably wondered, "Why the heck did he make up words to this song???"

I didn't hear Sting's version until the release of Nothing Like The Sun, but I really enjoyed it then. I was a huge fan of The Police, and Sting's first solo tour for Dream of the Blue Turtles, was the very first concert I ever went to with "just my friends" rather than having my parents and family there as well. I was in... 7th grade I think...?

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #1905 on:** December 12, 2023, 05:25:05 PM »

7th grade? How did you get there? Austin is weird, but you still gotta be older than that to drive.

utee94 · « **Reply #1906 on:** December 12, 2023, 05:31:33 PM »

Quote from: MikeDeTiger on December 12, 2023, 05:25:05 PM

7th grade? How did you get there? Austin is weird, but you still gotta be older than that to drive.

Ha!

We were a group of 4-5 I think, and one of our parents dropped us off at the Superdrum, and picked us up at the end.

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #1907 on:** December 12, 2023, 05:42:21 PM »

I saw Sting once, in 2010, way past the time I would've liked to have seen him. It was at the UNO Arena in NOLA and sadly, it was extraordinarily lame. He was touring with London's Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, and the orchestra was the bulk of the music. He still had longtime guitarist Dominic Miller with him, playing all acoustic, but I mean....it was all acoustic, and there was no drums, bass, or keys.

An orchestral version of Sting's career was not/is not really high on my list, but I went because somebody gave me a ticket and he's one of my faves I'd always wanted to see.

Had a chance to see him in 95 or 96 for the Mercury Falling tour and I let something dumb that came up cancel it. Really wish I hadn't done that.

Mr Tulip · « **Reply #1908 on:** December 12, 2023, 06:00:23 PM »

Only concert I ever wanted to leave. I was with some friends who were enraptured, though, and I got stuck.
Sting played somewhere in Houston. Annie Lennox opened, and she was absolutely spellbinding.

Sting came on and was such a hackneyed pretentious $*!@#% that I got bored with it instantly. Rough, because Stewart Copeland is one of my idols. I grew up an Alex Van Halen, straight ahead kit bashing for all I was worth, and have been working to incorporate Stewart's finesse game into my soul.

utee94 · « **Reply #1909 on:** December 12, 2023, 06:33:04 PM »

Hmm, which tour did you see Sting?

I saw him three times, for all of his first three solo tours in '85, '87, and '91. The first two were amazing, back when he had Branford Marsalis as the head of his combo. Just unreal.

The third, was just okay. He just had some ordinary rock band combo behind him. Maybe some doowap singers, but not nearly as much soul as his first two tours. Which is odd because the name of that 3rd album was "Soul Cages."

FearlessF · « **Reply #1910 on:** December 12, 2023, 06:52:42 PM »

I wouldn't walk across the street to see Sting

I was a fan of the Police when they first arrived on the scene

FearlessF · « **Reply #1911 on:** December 12, 2023, 06:55:25 PM »

https://youtu.be/pwp8h9ebR0s

utee94 · « **Reply #1912 on:** December 12, 2023, 06:56:20 PM »

That's too bad. Sting's first couple of albums and tours with Branford Marsalis were really special.

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #1913 on:** December 13, 2023, 10:18:58 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on December 12, 2023, 06:33:04 PM

Hmm, which tour did you see Sting?

I saw him three times, for all of his first three solo tours in '85, '87, and '91. The first two were amazing, back when he had Branford Marsalis as the head of his combo. Just unreal.

The third, was just okay. He just had some ordinary rock band combo behind him. Maybe some doowap singers, but not nearly as much soul as his first two tours. Which is odd because the name of that 3rd album was "Soul Cages."

The Soul Cages album was born out of a lot of personal pain and intentional change of direction in music to reflect that. Both Sting's parents passed between the time Nothing Like The Sun was released and Soul Cages was recorded. The relationship with his dad wasn't the best, and those themes are fleshed out in tracks like Why Should I Cry For You. The songs themselves were just darker and totally different than the first two albums, so it probably wouldn't make sense to try to infuse that with the same "soul" the first albums' songs allowed for. That was also the point when Sting went back to being his own bassist, which meant changing out Daryl Jones (or Jackson?) on bass and bringing in Dominic Miller on guitar....definitely no ordinary rock guitarist, but certainly changing the sound. The drummer and keyboard player remained the same from second tour (first and second tours/albums had different drummers). I think Branford Marsalis maybe didn't do that tour, but he was definitely on the album.

The live recording of his first solo tour, titled "Bring On The Night" is one of my favorite live albums to this day. But my favorite "Sting lineup" came with the Ten Summoner's Tales album/tour, where he traded out Kenny Kirkland for David Sanctious on keys and started a several years long colab with Vinnie Colaiuta on drums. I have quite a few high quality bootleg live shows from those days, and they're amazing. Various recordings is really the only thing I can speak to when it comes to those tours, since I obviously didn't get to go.

I think maybe Tulip gets confused on "hackneyed pretentious $*!@#%" and just being British.

Mr Tulip · « **Reply #1914 on:** December 13, 2023, 10:35:08 AM »

This tour was in the early 2000's that I remember. He mostly stood in the center of the stage making bass face and expected everyone to swoon at his intense sexual magnetism. He brought on a really awesome female singer for a few numbers. I really thought she should have headlined.
He kept the opening to "Roxanne" going for like 10 minutes. Acted like it was our privilege to witness it.
I sat there and checked baseball scores on my BlackBerry. I don't care about baseball.

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #1915 on:** December 13, 2023, 10:48:23 AM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8j6Q6mLmB8k&list=PLJbkwTChT5usJUG-xCEEFyNE6v16AANv3&index=33

utee94 · « **Reply #1916 on:** December 13, 2023, 11:08:54 AM »

Quote from: MikeDeTiger on December 13, 2023, 10:18:58 AM

The Soul Cages album was born out of a lot of personal pain and intentional change of direction in music to reflect that. Both Sting's parents passed between the time Nothing Like The Sun was released and Soul Cages was recorded. The relationship with his dad wasn't the best, and those themes are fleshed out in tracks like Why Should I Cry For You. The songs themselves were just darker and totally different than the first two albums, so it probably wouldn't make sense to try to infuse that with the same "soul" the first albums' songs allowed for. That was also the point when Sting went back to being his own bassist, which meant changing out Daryl Jones (or Jackson?) on bass and bringing in Dominic Miller on guitar....definitely no ordinary rock guitarist, but certainly changing the sound. The drummer and keyboard player remained the same from second tour (first and second tours/albums had different drummers). I think Branford Marsalis maybe didn't do that tour, but he was definitely on the album.

The live recording of his first solo tour, titled "Bring On The Night" is one of my favorite live albums to this day. But my favorite "Sting lineup" came with the Ten Summoner's Tales album/tour, where he traded out Kenny Kirkland for David Sanctious on keys and started a several years long colab with Vinnie Colaiuta on drums. I have quite a few high quality bootleg live shows from those days, and they're amazing. Various recordings is really the only thing I can speak to when it comes to those tours, since I obviously didn't get to go.

I think maybe Tulip gets confused on "hackneyed pretentious $*!@#%" and just being British.

Yeah Branford definitely didn't tour with him on Soul Cages. I didn't love that CD and the show was pretty "meh" for me. At that point he seemed to pass into the adult contemporary world and fell off my radar.

But those first two solo albums and tours were something special IMO. Every bit as good as Joshua Tree and the tour that followed it. All are still up in my top 15 shows I've ever seen, even more than 30 years later.

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #1917 on:** December 13, 2023, 11:48:51 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on December 13, 2023, 11:08:54 AM

Yeah Branford definitely didn't tour with him on Soul Cages.

His loss

I have a mentor/buddy in the Nola area who studied under Branford and Wynton's father, Ellis Marsalis, at NOCCA (New Orleans Center for Creative Arts). He was the first guy I ever gigged with who was not a run-of-the-mill guy talented at rock, pop, etc., and who could do more than just hack his way through non-American genres. I vividly recall sitting down to practice with him one time and he started playing kind of a Latino thing and I thought "Ok, cool, I can hack my way through some Tejano." After I joined in he just quit and shook his head and said "No, no, no.....I'm playing a well known Brazilian thing, and you're playing an Afro-Cuban beat which would be very offensive in that context." I looked at him dumbly and said "I guess I didn't know there's a difference." He shook his head some more and proceeded to try to explain to me the difference between Mexican beats, Brazilian ones, Cuban ones, African ones, a bunch....and how a knowledgeable drummer does not conflate them.

Sucka. His obvious mistake was "knowledgeable drummer."

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