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« Reply #5474 on: May 02, 2024, 12:00:46 PM »
The 5 American "cars" that are most expensive to own.

Dodge Ram 2500
Chrysler Pacifica
Cadillac Escalade
Chevrolet Suburban
Jeep Wrangler

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/cm/5-american-cars-cost-most-110046023.html
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« Reply #5475 on: May 02, 2024, 03:08:25 PM »
So far we haven't had any real issues with our Wrangler, but they certainly have the reputation for causing trouble.


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« Reply #5476 on: May 02, 2024, 04:49:42 PM »
What's interesting to me is that none of those five vehicles are exactly "cars."

Typically, vehicles designed for off-road use are going to have higher fuel consumption than similar-sized vehicles designed to stay on hard-surfaced roadways, as they will have heavier-duty (and heavier) components. If they frequently go off-road, they will suffer more wear and tear on those heavier-duty components, causing more frequent repairs, and each of those repairs will be more expensive because of the heavier-duty (and more-expensive) components.

Vans, even mini-vans, are bigger (and heavier) than cars of similar performance. So there's a similar cost-factor there.

But individual results may vary.

When I saw the headline, I thought that the "champions" might be Corvettes, Shelby Mustangs, Dodge Hellcats (800 hp, I think), and others of that ilk.
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« Reply #5477 on: May 02, 2024, 05:15:16 PM »
What's interesting to me is that none of those five vehicles are exactly "cars."

Typically, vehicles designed for off-road use are going to have higher fuel consumption than similar-sized vehicles designed to stay on hard-surfaced roadways, as they will have heavier-duty (and heavier) components. If they frequently go off-road, they will suffer more wear and tear on those heavier-duty components, causing more frequent repairs, and each of those repairs will be more expensive because of the heavier-duty (and more-expensive) components.

Vans, even mini-vans, are bigger (and heavier) than cars of similar performance. So there's a similar cost-factor there.

But individual results may vary.

When I saw the headline, I thought that the "champions" might be Corvettes, Shelby Mustangs, Dodge Hellcats (800 hp, I think), and others of that ilk.
Yeah this would be a little more interesting if they divided it into classes.  Full-size SUVs and heavy duty trucks probably shouldn't be compared to passenger cars.  

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« Reply #5478 on: May 02, 2024, 08:08:24 PM »
no Ford Expedition Platinum MAX???
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« Reply #5479 on: May 02, 2024, 09:06:48 PM »
Must be fairly reliable!

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« Reply #5480 on: Today at 01:03:34 PM »
The Texas Quote of the Day is one of the best true-life cowboy quotes you'll ever read:
"From 1874 to 1877 I was taking care of my father's cattle, and after a while the neighbors began putting cattle with me, paying me a dollar fifty a head for six months. I herded them in the daytime and penned them at night, and for the first time in my life, I could rustle a little cash. In 1875 I made twenty-nine dollars that way, and my brother Harry and I had one hell of a time. We bought a bottle of whisky, shot out the lights on the street corners, and run our horses through the streets of Lincoln whooping and yelling like Cheyenne Indians on the warpath. We'd have gone to jail for sure if some of Gus Walker's trail men had not been with us. They got the blame, as everything was laid to the Texas men, but they left next day for Texas and so it all blew over. This was my first experience standing up to the bar buying drinks for the boys, and I sure felt big.
That summer, I remember, Ace Harmon, who was one of John T. Lytle's trail bosses and a god to me, said: "In a year or two Teddy will be a real cowboy." And I growed three inches and gained ten pounds that night....
From the time I was fourteen and staying out with the cattle most all the time, I got to be more and more independent. The boys took turns staying out there with me, but Lincoln was only twelve miles from camp, and when we had a little money, one of us would slip off to town on his pony, leaving the other one on herd. We'd hang around the saloons, listening to those men and getting filled up with talk about gunfights and killings. One time I remember I was in a saloon, and I heard a fellow talking about the Yankees. He said: "I was coming down the road and I met a damn blue-bellied abolitionist, and I paunched [shot] him. And he laid there in the brush and belched like a beef for three days, and then he died in fits. The b*stard!"
He told that before a whole crowd of men. I don't know that he ever done it. But that was the way he talked to get a fight. Those early-day Texans was full of that stuff. Most of them that came up with the trail herds, being from Texas and Southerners to start with, was on the side of the South, and oh, but they were bitter. That was how a lot of them got killed, because they were filled full of the old dope about the war and they wouldn't let an abolitionist arrest them. The marshals in those cow towns on the trail were usually Northern men, and the Southerners wouldn't go back to Texas and hear people say: "He's a hell of a fellow. He let a Yankee lock him up." Down home one Texas Ranger could arrest the lot of them, but up North you'd have to kill them first.
I couldn't even guess how many was killed that way on the trail. There was several killed at every one of those shipping points in Kansas, but you get different people telling the same story over and over again and the number is bound to be exaggerated. Besides, not all that were killed were cowboys; a lot of saloon men and tinhorn gamblers bit the dust. While I saw several shooting scrapes in saloons and sporting houses, I never saw a man shot dead, though some died afterwards.
But in the 1870s, they were a hard bunch, and I believe it was partly on account of what they came from. Down in Texas in the early days, every man had to have his six-shooter always ready, every house kept a shotgun loaded with buckshot, because they were always looking for a raid by Mexicans or Comanche Indians. What is more, I guess half the people in Texas in the seventies had moved out there on the frontier from the Southern states and from the rebel armies, and was the type that did not want any restraints."
----- Teddy Blue Abbott, "We Pointed them North:  Recollections of a Cowpuncher," 1939.  Teddy Blue rode the trail from South Texas to shipping points in Kansas and Montana three different times.  It's apparent from reading Lonesome Dove that Larry McMurtry was VERY familiar with Teddy Blue's book, which was written in Teddy Blue's  plain-spoken vernacular.  It's a very entertaining read. This photo of Teddy Blue was taken in 1910.




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« Reply #5481 on: Today at 01:09:26 PM »
Earlier I posted a quote from Teddy Blue Abbott's "We Pointed Them North: Recollections of an Old Cowhand."  I did not know until just now, when Traces of Texas reader Bart Berthold sent in this photo, that Teddy Blue drank with Calamity Jane herself.  For whatever reason --- possibly alcohol ---- they posed wearing each other's hats.  This was taken in Gilt Edge, Montana in 1887. An absolutely incredible historical photo. By the way, at the end of "We Pointed them North," Teddy wrote one of my favorite paragraphs of all time:
"A man has got to be at least seventy-five years old to be a real old cowhand. I started young and I am seventy-eight. Only a few of us are left now, and they are scattered from Texas to Canada. The rest have left the wagon and gone ahead across the big divide, looking for a new range. I hope they find good water and plenty of grass. But wherever they are is where I want to go."
E.C. "Teddy Blue" Abbott passed away a few weeks after writing these words.


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« Reply #5482 on: Today at 01:37:02 PM »

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E.C. "Teddy Blue" Abbott passed away a few weeks after writing these words.
Teddy Blue Abbott. That's a Texas name fer ya.


I wonder what the "E.C." stood for. "Evelyn Cyril," like E.C. Gordon, the protagonist in Robert Heinlein's Glory Road, perhaps?
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« Reply #5483 on: Today at 02:11:37 PM »
perhaps Eldrick, like Tiger Woods
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