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Topic: The Porch, y'all. pull up a seat and kick back.

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847badgerfan

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« Reply #6314 on: July 27, 2026, 03:07:40 PM »
I believe strongly in learning different perspectives.  My undergraduate experience in college was largely interacting with foreign nationals, as an eletrical engineer.  I was distinctly in the minority, the vast majority were Chinese, Korean, Indian, and a decent mix from the middle east.  One of my favorite people I met my entire time was a TA from Iran, he was a great teacher and a good friend.

But that's not what forced integration was really designed to do.  Forced integration was enacted to check a box that some retards in government thought needed to be checked.  Increasing diversity of thought and experience is not what it was designed to do and it's most certainly not what it accomplished.

The only skill I learned as a result of busing, was survival. 

Oh, and the ability to hold my pee for 10 hours because there's absolutely no way I could go into the bathrooms in that hellhole.
How could you do that with only one kidney (the other one presumably got stolen)?
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« Reply #6315 on: July 27, 2026, 03:15:44 PM »
How could you do that with only one kidney (the other one presumably got stolen)?
This was several years before Slick and his band of state-worker miscreants stole it.

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« Reply #6316 on: July 27, 2026, 03:35:56 PM »
10/4
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« Reply #6317 on: July 28, 2026, 11:15:32 AM »
This was several years before Slick and his band of state-worker miscreants stole it.

Ya know, I take deep exception to this because....um...because...well, see, what you're not giving state workers credit for is.....what I mean is.....

Well, it's hard to explain.  Just let us know if the other one becomes available.  We won't compulsorily take it from you, but you are encouraged to donate it.  

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« Reply #6318 on: July 28, 2026, 01:06:58 PM »
From 4th-6th grade I was bussed 3/4 of the way across town to go to elementary school in a mixed school in a mixed neighborhood.  In junior high (7th and 8th)...


I just now caught this.  I've heard of this in more recent times, but not when I was growing up.  Elementary school was always K-5 and middle school was always 6-8.  I was grown the first time I heard of 6th grade still being elementary school.  Wonder why some districts choose to lump 6th grade into elementary school. 

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« Reply #6319 on: July 28, 2026, 01:12:49 PM »
6th grade is probably the weirdest one.  Some of the kids are already hitting puberty and are turning into young men and women.  Some of the kids still look and act like 3rd or 4th graders.  It's always been tough to place which is why it has bounced back and forth between elementary school, and middle school, over the decades, depending on where you live.

For about ten years, while I was a younger elementary school kid, they actually had "Sixth Grade Centers" for this reason.  They isolated 6th graders and didn't have them in either elementary school OR junior high/middle school.  It was logistically more complicated but I'm not sure it was such a bad idea.  For boys especially, being a 6th grader in middle school can be really tough.  My son had a miserable 6th grade year, just awful.

Anyway they'd done away with that by the time I hit 6th grade so I was still just in elementary school.  And then did two years of junior high for 7th and 8th.

Heck, I've heard of some middle schools that are 7-8-9, and high school is 10-11-12.  I don't think I've ever seen that in Texico but I've heard of it.

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« Reply #6320 on: July 28, 2026, 01:53:42 PM »
In Waco, at the time, my elementary school was 1-5 (Texas didn't fund public kindergarten). We had independent 6th grade schools (the year after I went, they consolidated to one 6th grade center). I had 7-8 at a "Junior High". Then, since they consolidated, we had a "9th grade center" where all the 9th graders went before heading to Waco High School 10-12.

That was my track. There were some zones in the WISD where the 9th grade was still attached to the Jr Hi (at least until consolidation). My 6th grade year was the year they decided to try doing the 7 periods a day thing (instead of home rooms going to math and reading classes). Since they were only doing it one year, they declined to add lockers to the 6th grade building. I got to drag everything for every class everywhere everyday.

6th grade was the "bus across town" thing where I got picked up, taken to the elementary school, then waited there for the transfer bus across town. 

I got the brand new, fully air conditioned elementary school, but then the 6th grade campus was only partially air conditioned. The 7-8 grade was in the process of being upgraded to AC. Lots of the older schools never saw any AC at all.

Waco was (and is) weird. It had race problems like everyone, but it also had the "Do you know how long my family attended Baylor?" and "We've gone to this church for years! Do you know who we are?" divides. 

I think I was about 11 years old when I discovered Satan, and how much fun I could have upsetting everyone in his name.

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« Reply #6321 on: July 28, 2026, 01:56:25 PM »
Well there you have it.  Absolutely no rhyme or reason or consistency, in schooling practices across Texico. 


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« Reply #6322 on: July 28, 2026, 03:06:39 PM »
For about ten years, while I was a younger elementary school kid, they actually had "Sixth Grade Centers" for this reason.  They isolated 6th graders and didn't have them in either elementary school OR junior high/middle school.  It was logistically more complicated but I'm not sure it was such a bad idea.  For boys especially, being a 6th grader in middle school can be really tough.  My son had a miserable 6th grade year, just awful.

I was going to mention how ubiquitous and integral to the coming-of-age experience 6th-graders being bullied by older kids is, and how could you possibly deny kids the character-building that forged.  But then I realized your district solved that by bussing you across town to get the shit kicked out of you in multiple grades, not just 6th.

And it worked!  Look how good you turned out!  :72:

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« Reply #6323 on: July 28, 2026, 03:32:13 PM »
This has been a fascinating discussion.  Small towns have their disadvantages, to be sure.  But I'm glad to have grown up where I did, and that I gave my kids the same environment to grow up in.  As traumatized as they feel by having gotten the shaft at times due to not being from the landed gentry class, it could have been a helluva lot worse.

They'll all likely have the means to send their kids to private schools, which will bring their own issues, but daily racial incidents shouldn't be on their horizon.

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« Reply #6324 on: July 28, 2026, 11:07:58 PM »
pros and cons

I'd guess I wouldn't trade my small town school for the big city large school but I've only known one, not the other
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« Reply #6325 on: Today at 10:12:15 AM »
I've been in a larger city district (Baton Rouge), a rural-yet-populous school district (in GA), and a small-town school (in LA).  Like Fearless said, I guess all have their pros and cons.  

It would've been nice to have had a group of school friends I started kindergarten with and finally graduated with, but that was never a possibility in Baton Rouge anyway, due to the aforementioned re-arranging kids throughout the city all the time.  I still keep up a little bit with some folks I graduated with, but really, I only spent three years with them, and it's not the same relationship the rest of them have, who all went K-12 together.  

Isolating 6th graders seems like a good move, knowing absolutely nothing about the unintended consequences and assuming the money is there to do such a thing.  Just hypothetically, in a world where there's no drawbacks I don't know about, it seems to mitigate the weird age that is.  Like utee94 said, 6th grade can be rough, particularly for boys, and that was certainly my experience.  It wasn't hostile so much as it was just.....how boys are.  The testosterone is starting to change you, but it hasn't caught up to where the 7th and 8th graders are, and their hormones demand idiocy, which usually manifests in picking on the 6th graders.  

Conversely, I wouldn't want 6th graders in with K-5 either.  I remember being in 5th grade and clearly having the sense before school, on the playground, etc., that as I looked around at kindergarteners, 1st graders, etc.....it was getting dumber by the minute that I was in the same spaces as them.  Bullying was not nearly so much a thing in elementary school as it was in middle school (in my experience), but it did exist, and some 5th graders were already starting to treat the 3rd graders like punching bags.  6th grade would've only compounded that.  

Best to just stick them off by themselves, if you can.  Says the guy who has no data, no research, and knows nothing.  

High school levels back out again.  I recall some amount of upper classmen messing with freshmen, but barely anything in comparison to what goes on in middle school.  By then the boys have had a few years with their hormones to figure out to deal with them and still act like human beings, whereas middle school boys.......are just idiots. 

 

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