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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #182 on: July 30, 2022, 05:55:51 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 30, 2022, 02:31:21 PM
no gets fired with only 1 year unless some other factor besides the W/L record is involved
0-12 might do it, but probably not.
Speaking of hot seats, surely Scott Frost must show significant progress this year if he wants to coach the Huskers in 2023.
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #183 on: July 31, 2022, 08:31:48 AM »
The question is not who gets fired after the first year, but who gets fired first, which likely would be 4-5-6 years out, except fot cause.
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #184 on: August 01, 2022, 09:32:30 AM »
Quote from: CWSooner on July 30, 2022, 05:55:51 PM
0-12 might do it, but probably not.
Speaking of hot seats, surely Scott Frost must show significant progress this year if he wants to coach the Huskers in 2023.
gotta win at least 6 and go to a bowl or he's gone
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #185 on: August 01, 2022, 11:35:31 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 01, 2022, 09:32:30 AM
gotta win at least 6 and go to a bowl or he's gone
Just as I thought that Charlie Strong would tear it up at Texas, I thought that Scott Frost would be a big-time success at Nebraska. When he was hired, what was there not to like?
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #186 on: August 01, 2022, 11:40:14 AM »
This new coach thing seems to be a crap shoot to me.  You can easily do a Tennessee.
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« Reply #187 on: August 01, 2022, 11:48:31 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 01, 2022, 11:40:14 AM
This new coach thing seems to be a crap shoot to me.  You can easily do a Tennessee.
Yep.

What seem at the time to be great hires can turn out to look really stupid in 20-20 (or 50-50 if you're Cam Newton) hindsight.
Howard Schnellenberger and John Blake at OU, for example.
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #188 on: August 01, 2022, 11:54:07 AM »
I think it's been a long time since three Blue Bloods have been lagging to this degree, and it looks like it's coaching, to me.  Even Michigan was on the edge of that before last season I think.  UGA has been lucky, I think, Goff was not a good hire, then Donnan, who didn't do terribly but lost to rivals (who were up at the time) and then Richt who did pretty well but couldn't seal the deal.

Tennessee MAY be coming out of its slump, maybe, remains to be seen of course, their offense should be a problem for opponents this season.
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #189 on: August 01, 2022, 12:16:02 PM »
Jim Donnan was one of the OU fanbase's favorites as the miserable John Blake era in Norman was reaching its miserable end.

Bob Stoops was much less known.
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #190 on: August 01, 2022, 12:39:18 PM »
I thought Frost would be an 8-9 win per season coach similar to Pelini when hired

perhaps better

I think that could still pan out, but a 6 or 7 win season needs to happen now or he won't get the chance

Riley left a bigger mess than Billy C., but ya gotta be able to clean up a mess in 4 seasons
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #191 on: August 01, 2022, 12:45:08 PM »
Donnan is probably a decent enough coach at the right place, he could perhaps survive nicely at Marshall et al., but not at a program wanting the NC.

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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #192 on: August 01, 2022, 04:36:16 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 01, 2022, 12:39:18 PM
I thought Frost would be an 8-9 win per season coach similar to Pelini when hired

perhaps better

I think that could still pan out, but a 6 or 7 win season needs to happen now or he won't get the chance

Riley left a bigger mess than Billy C., but ya gotta be able to clean up a mess in 4 seasons
8-9-win seasons are well below the standards set by the Huskers of the '90s and early '00s.
But they would stop the bleeding and provide a reason to hope for better.
Nebraska seems to have never been the same since taking 2 bad losses to end the 2001 season.
You've said it before, and I agree . . . firing Frank Solich was a mistake.
If the Husker PTBs had had that quick a trigger in the '60s and '70s, Devaney and Osborne wouldn't have lasted long enough to win their NCs.
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #193 on: August 01, 2022, 04:54:35 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 01, 2022, 04:36:16 PM
8-9-win seasons are well below the standards set by the Huskers of the '90s and early '00s.
But they would stop the bleeding and provide a reason to hope for better.
Nebraska seems to have never been the same since taking 2 bad losses to end the 2001 season.
You've said it before, and I agree . . . firing Frank Solich was a mistake.
If the Husker PTBs had had that quick a trigger in the '60s and '70s, Devaney and Osborne wouldn't have lasted long enough to win their NCs.
9 win seasons was Osborne's low bar for his career
the mid 90's might not be attainable again
I'd settle for the 70's & 80's.  9-11 wins, a conference championship once in a while, and a long shot for a national title

Frank was probably going to be fired at some point, but it shouldn't have been the season that the team won 10 games and Billy C. was your best choice at a replacement
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Re: Lincoln Riley to USC
« Reply #194 on: August 01, 2022, 05:24:16 PM »
Bill Callahan was a disastrous hire.  Really, an embarrassment.

But Mike Riley was even worse.
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« Reply #195 on: August 01, 2022, 05:28:15 PM »
agreed
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