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yes, the top programs left in the 12 and the PAC should merge to form what would be a conference the equal or better than what the ACC will become

4 total large conferences

there's your 4 team playoff with no one being left out

I'm fine with that

I'm not fine with pods or any overly rotating schedules trying to play 16, 18, or 20 teams regularly

Glad to see you posting. Been a while. Not really much of an SEC board here, so I get it.

I actually think the XII is more viable long term than the PAC. XII has Texas and Florida - football passion.

What's left in Pac Land as far as passionate fans is pretty much Oregon, Washington, Utah and Colorado.

The XII should grab them ASAP, and then maybe the AZ schools. Then choose from the leftover PAC and consider UNLV and maybe Boise????

That would get them to 20.

i think they need each other & that its semantics whether one invites the other or vice versa
i disagree that they have fla.  they have a directional u that is an afterthought in that state regardless of recent on field success
the pac inviting the best of what's left gives those schools a path to escape the 4 they just invited which was my thought process in wording it that way.
speaking of afterthoughts unlv is terrible as well.  i would be hard pressed to find another school that's more ignored in their own city let alone state.  you are most certainly correct re: how much the pac cares but most of their properties are still better than cinci, houston, ucf, etc.

ua/asu
stan/cal
ore st/wazzu
utah/col
ku/kst
okst/ttech
baylor/byu
ist/tcu
if wva sticks around take your pick from the boise's of what's left.

that league will lag behind the two monsters but it's better than every g5 as currently comprised.  they'll never win anything in fball but a hoops title every once in awhile.

i would imagine someone's taking ore/uw though & its probably the big ten.

the other question is what the acc's going to do & how that impacts all of that.

& lastly this all continues to suck as it has for 12 years & counting.

i also wonder what lincoln riley thinks of all of this as it pertains to why he necessarily left ou.

big coup for the big ten getting into that recruiting footprint.

it is good to still see you here.

I'm fine with that

I'm not fine with pods or any overly rotating schedules trying to play 16, 18, or 20 teams regularly

i haven't been fine with any of it tip to tail no one cares
you'll play your pod & like it if the networks pay for it.

which brings up a question, how many of you have actually met a normal fan who likes r/a.  i haven't.

i haven't been fine with any of it tip to tail no one cares
you'll play your pod & like it if the networks pay for it.

which brings up a question, how many of you have actually met a normal fan who likes r/a.  i haven't.

I know but it sucks
It's only a matter of time before Texas/Oklahoma and Ohio St/Michigan and Notre Dame/USC are not played annually

Glad to see you posting. Been a while. Not really much of an SEC board here, so I get it.

I actually think the XII is more viable long term than the PAC. XII has Texas and Florida - football passion.

What's left in Pac Land as far as passionate fans is pretty much Oregon, Washington, Utah and Colorado.

The XII should grab them ASAP, and then maybe the AZ schools. Then choose from the leftover PAC and consider UNLV and maybe Boise????

That would get them to 20.

Are there passionate fans of the U of Colorado?  Seems to me that that program has floated off on a smoky, fragrant haze.
I heard a suggestion that the Big 12 should offer Oregon and Washington--both rumored to be seeking membership in the Big Ten--if and when the Pac-12 (-2) breaks up or they otherwise are able to leave.  I don't think either school would accept if offered.
It would be a barrel of monkeys to see Stanford in the same conference with Oklahoma State and Texas Tech.
The B1G with USC and UCLA spans nearly 3,000 miles in driving distance.  Makes WVU's membership in the Big 12 seem entirely sensible by comparison.

I was on a place from Hawaii to LA and in front of us was seated the New Mexico lady's soccer team.  I was getting pretty interested in women's soccer at that point.  It's a long flight.