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Topic: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1

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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2019, 11:21:03 PM »
You'd think that the Aggies would like the matchup, as the Horns have scoreboard.

Maybe Gigem can chime in on this.
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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2019, 12:37:45 PM »
I’d have to say that most Aggies are split on the issue.  A lot of Aggies would like to resume the annual game.  Myself I’d like to see about a 20 year span before we start playing the ‘horns again.  We are still relatively new in the conference and still trying to establish an identity here. I cringe when we play someone on National tv and our fans are giving the horns upside down. I kinda know why they’re doing it but still dislike it. I want A&M to be all about us more than anti-someone else. 

We really haven’t had as much success relative to our resources. I envision A&M eventually joining Clemson, Auburn, and LSU in the highly successful program category. I specifically mention these programs because they are the 2nd wave of blue bloods. We certainly have similar profiles program wise, maybe even a better position than Clemson WRT recruiting.  

The other part of that is that I think UT needs A&M much more than A&M needs them. Being in the SEC has put us in a position where we’re the only instate sec program. I think our recruiting has benefited even if we haven’t been able to translate that to wins. It does set us apart. 

The SEC, and especially the West, is tough, tough, tough.  Honestly we would be better served playing a light schedule ooc.  Obviously nobody had any idea Clemson would be so tough these last few years. 




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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2019, 04:11:18 PM »

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Obviously nobody had any idea Clemson would be so tough these last few years.
Clemson is in the catbird seat right now.  King of a pathetic conference that offers little to no resistance, and able to build its rep off of one or two tough OOC games a year, plus CFP success.  I wonder if Clemson's status will outlive Dabo Swinney's tenure as HFC.
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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #31 on: December 25, 2019, 04:25:20 PM »
I think Dabo must be a capable coach.  They are out recruiting Alabama, which is hard to do, and of course beating them, which also is not easy.  The OSU game will be fascinating, I have had OSU as the best team out there most of the season.  If Fields is healthy, they can score, and play defense.  Clemson isn't going anywhere unless Dabo is.

They have had some nice runs in the past but often associated with, um, some malfeasances.

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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2019, 08:45:34 PM »
Clemson is in the catbird seat right now.  King of a pathetic conference that offers little to no resistance, and able to build its rep off of one or two tough OOC games a year, plus CFP success.  I wonder if Clemson's status will outlive Dabo Swinney's tenure as HFC.
I’m sorry but this is quite laughable coming from an Big 12/OU fan. Isn’t Clemson the team that absolutely destroyed OU a few years ago in the first few cfb playoffs?  If anything playing in a weak conference should manifest itself when the playoffs start. 

I don’t really follow the ACC much but I wasn’t aware they were considered down. 

Regardless of how easy or tough their schedule is they have still done extremely well in the cfp.  Beaten Bama 2x, lost one and generally been in it every year. 

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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #33 on: December 25, 2019, 11:18:15 PM »
I’m sorry but this is quite laughable coming from an Big 12/OU fan. Isn’t Clemson the team that absolutely destroyed OU a few years ago in the first few cfb playoffs?  If anything playing in a weak conference should manifest itself when the playoffs start.

I don’t really follow the ACC much but I wasn’t aware they were considered down.

Regardless of how easy or tough their schedule is they have still done extremely well in the cfp.  Beaten Bama 2x, lost one and generally been in it every year.
I was comparing Clemson's situation to that of any program in the SEC-West, which, as you mentioned, is tough.
Clemson has a much easier route to the playoff than Bama or LSU do, and they likely will arrive there with fewer injuries to key players.
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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2019, 08:26:43 AM »
The ACC this year is arguably historically bad, other than Clemson.  The second best team probably is Virginia, who lost to Clemson 62-17.  No other team won 9 games.

Two other teams managed 8 wins and two got to 7-5.  I think the second best team in any other conference ie better than UVA (who faces Florida in the OB).

The Pac 12 has 3 ranked teams and two that look to be pretty good (and USC).

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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2019, 10:04:05 AM »
The AAC is better than the ACC
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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2019, 10:17:51 AM »
I’m sorry but this is quite laughable coming from an Big 12/OU fan. Isn’t Clemson the team that absolutely destroyed OU a few years ago in the first few cfb playoffs?  If anything playing in a weak conference should manifest itself when the playoffs start.

I don’t really follow the ACC much but I wasn’t aware they were considered down.

Regardless of how easy or tough their schedule is they have still done extremely well in the cfp.  Beaten Bama 2x, lost one and generally been in it every year.
I'm not surprised you wouldn't be aware.  As an ag, all you hear in the echo chamber of texags and other places like that, is how bad the "BDF" is, and how good Clemson must be since you played them so tough (the first go-round, anyway).

Pretty sure it was posted upthread, but by some objective measurements calculated mathematically, the B12 is arguably the best conference this year. B12 teams have extremely high SOS.  The ACC is, as CD asserted  earlier, historically bad.  They're a distant 5th at this point.

But Clemson is certainly still a good team and have proven it in the playoffs.  That doesn't change C-dubb's point, that they have an extreme advantage over every SEC, B12, B1G, and even PAC team in their route to the playoff, which is just unbelievably easy by comparison.



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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2019, 11:47:43 AM »
Like the Big East was back in the day - New years day bowl for Rutgers!
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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2019, 12:02:46 PM »
The AAC is better than the ACC
They have three ranked teams, albeit 17th and lower.  They have five ten win teams, albeit against generally soft competition.  I think a very good P5 team would likely go 12-1 in the AAC, I'm talking a Penn State caliber team.  They'd probably go 12-1 in the ACC as well if they faced Clemson (13-1 is they didn't regular season).  I don't recall the ACC being THIS bad for a long long time.  

Playing in the SEC West is certainly difficult especially if you happen to hit an East power OOD.  The B1G East is not walk in the park unless you are Ohio State.  The B12 is tough because if your team is really good you will face another really good team twice.

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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2019, 10:51:04 AM »
The B12 is tough because of the 9 conference games,  the full roundrobin that ensures you NEVER miss another conference team, AND the silly rematch CCG which ensures you play another of the two best teams in the conference twice no matter what.


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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2019, 03:49:15 PM »
Yeah, if you take four random teams out of the SEC and play the same slate it would likely be tougher unless the four teams were Bama/LSU etc.

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Re: CBS: Ranking the 2019 college football bowl games, 39-1
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2019, 06:31:42 PM »
Almost kickoff time. I won’t be watching the first quarter because we’re in the deer blind but I’ll probably make it back just in time for the end of the 1st half. I look for it to be a really tight game.  

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