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Topic: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away

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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #84 on: August 06, 2023, 10:00:50 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 06, 2023, 09:49:33 AM
What I’m trying to say is that I can see a future where dealignment occurs. It may take 20 more years, but eventually the tv models will change, the value changes, and we’ll see a return to smaller conferences with 2-4 “big boys” , 3-4 mid tier teams, and 2-4 ne’er do wells ( KU, MSU, etc).
I think winning a division is similar to winning a conference back in the day
as divisions are now the size of old daze conferences

another reason I hope the "pod" model never happens
money drives everything - the conference champ game is a $$ game
Hopefully it stays
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2023, 10:03:46 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 06, 2023, 09:54:22 AM
Money will drive whatever happens.  I suspect we might see more NFLization until it's there.

Very long term, I expect football to be banned.
I don’t doubt what you say, and I guess the expanded playoff gets a lot of teams that chance they wouldn’t other wise have. Maybe just wishful thinking on my part. 

We’ll just have to see how things shake out over the next few decades. I’m just happy that A&M is in a major conference from the get go, but I could see a world where A&M is one of the teams that forms a new SWC. 
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« Reply #86 on: August 06, 2023, 10:13:44 AM »
TV $$$ distribution would have the change dramatically for the SWC and Big 8 to come back

I don't see it.
The bluebloods aren't letting go of the $$$ or power
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #87 on: August 06, 2023, 10:21:23 AM »
You say that, but TCU didn’t need it. What good does all the money do if you’re not winning ?  Remember, 2-3 of the blue bloods are in danger of falling off the list. 
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2023, 10:34:44 AM »
Money >>> winning, but not winning means less money.

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« Reply #89 on: August 06, 2023, 10:57:32 AM »
TCU didn't need the $$$ to win the B12, but they needed the invite to the conference

no program is ever going to agree to taking millions of dollars less, even if they think they can win more games

games against who?

I'm guessing going forward the 12-team playoff is going to be stacked with B1G and SEC teams, the ACC (for now) and ND

winning the B12 and the PAC isn't going to get you in.
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #90 on: August 06, 2023, 11:03:12 AM »
I think the winner of the B12 will get an invite, probably a top 4 seed, in most years.  We only have four conferences left, and the champions of each are almost guaranteed a top 4 seed.  I can't think of a G5 that has much of a shot, and the "major" G5 teams are now in the B12, or perhaps some kind of Pac residual (SDSU).

Of course, the playoff may be changed before it happens.
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #91 on: August 06, 2023, 11:18:46 AM »
depends on their record and resume
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« Reply #92 on: August 06, 2023, 11:21:50 AM »
Didn’t Cindy get in a few years ago as a G5?  Obviously they got obliterated, but still..  
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #93 on: August 06, 2023, 11:22:00 AM »
Can you think of a likely scenario where the top four ranked conference champions are not B1G/SEC/ACC/B12?

I can't.
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #94 on: August 06, 2023, 11:22:34 AM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 06, 2023, 11:21:50 AM
Didn’t Cindy get in a few years ago as a G5?  Obviously they got obliterated, but still.. 
Cincy did, yes, but under a very different playoff system.
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #95 on: August 06, 2023, 11:28:15 AM »
The 12-team format will feature, in order, the top four conference champions, followed by some combination of the top six at-large bids and two highest-ranked remaining conference champions. Teams will be ordered based on the College Football Playoff rankings.

That guarantees at least one "Group of 5" team will make the Playoff each year and, while it's unlikely, allows the possibility of more than one G5 team making the Playoff in lieu of a "Power 5" team.

I think this is going to get changed.  The G5 conferences have been stripped of nearly every semi-relevant team.  Hawaii??  BSU???  UConn?????

We're going to have, otherwise, a really poor team as the 12 seed, which I guess is OK?
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #96 on: August 06, 2023, 11:47:14 AM »
I think the top 4 conference champ thing can also be changed
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #97 on: August 06, 2023, 11:53:33 AM »
Sure, I expect folks to talk about this a lot between now and then, maybe something gets done.  The two highest ranked conference champions will end up being two crappy teams indeed.
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