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True that.

Even after over a decade of suckitude, Texas is still one of the top 2 or 3 most valuable brands in college football.  Just imagine if we were actually winning....

I think UT has a great shot at winning 10 plus games this year

We should have an excellent RB room.  They're largely untested  but there is some serious talent there.  I hope and pray the o-line has improved as much as folks seem to expect it to.

And yeah, the d-line rush has some serious question marks. It really doesn't make sense to expect anything major there, all we have is hope and crossed fingers.

six current members were in the minor leagues two decades ago - this pac implosion is going to save them from turning into mountain west+……..for the time being.  that said i see two issues moving forward.  positively an expanded po gives their champ a seat at the table regardless of the second issue which is that w/o ou/tx it’s really going to blow more often than not once the impact of their departure settles in - the expanded po will save whatever is ultimately left of the big 12/acc/pac from national irrelevance which may save the sport in one sense.  that will be a good thing. 

with tv deals outside of the two heavies being unpredictable idk what the future holds for the sport…..i think it’s anybody’s guess.  these ca schools playing league games in nj has taken r/a from merely unappealing to absurd.  

maybe the big 12 can get ore/uw for a spell if the big ten decides to wait.

what does that even mean these days when everything is ostensibly legal?  

i would think the big 12 would be over the moon to get them considering their other recent adds.

and how exactly does a toothless ncaa discern nil from pay for play and then enforce it?
it’s all pay for play sans the girls selling their bodies for followers on ig.

and how exactly does a toothless ncaa discern nil from pay for play and then enforce it?
it’s all pay for play sans the girls selling their bodies for followers on ig.

I'm not sure what you're arguing here?

We're not talking about hypotheticals, we're talking about a traditional cheater-school  (and one of the worst of them all, at that) joining the traditionally non-cheater B1G.  Just because some programs choose to skirt the rules doesn't mean they all do.  The B1G has traditionally been full of programs that have chosen not to cheat and pay players under the table. 

And I don't see the schools in the B1G changing their ways.  So admitting Oregon would be like letting the fox into the hen house.

And they'd be doing it to themselves willingly, which is what would make me laugh heartily.  Out loud.

i think legitimate nil vs what is in reality pay for play under the guise of nil is so minute it's not worth discussing in terms of how it's played out in real life making a conversation about cheating schools laughable particularly in the face of an impotent ncaa.  our state has passed nil legislation essentially flipping the bird to the ncaa & if it's going on here (school that hasn't cheated a ton historically) then it's going on in a lot of places.

as for uw/ore to the big ten or not this yr or this decade i have no idea.  i see them mentioned as the next domino so to speak so i pay attn & bring them up.  doesn't get any deeper than that.

you haven't convinced me in the slightest not that that matters to either one of us or the issue in general - perhaps you're right.  idk anything anymore dude.

Oregon is a bad match culturally, for the B1G.  That's what I'm saying, and it's really not all that disputable.  If you care to disagree, more power to you.

Anyway, it doesn't make any difference to me.  My school isn't in the B1G.