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Topic: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away

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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2023, 04:31:36 PM »
The ACC has two "football programs" of course, and then two other close to elite universities all around.  That's a pretty solid core, but if it erodes ...


It's a solid core for what?  They're now significantly underpaid compared to the New B12.  FSU and Miami are looking at over a decade of falling further and further behind... The University of Central Florida.

Conferences get paid for one thing and one thing only-- eyeballs on their live action sports, specifically football.

Nobody watches PAC football and this is the result.  Nobody watches ACC football and after the next 13 years of being locked into a horrible contract with a GOR, they'll be looking at the same fate.

I'm not HAPPY about this, I'd love to go back to conference alignments and bowl affiliations from about 1983 or so.

But for every jackwagon coastal elitist douchebag that crowed about how the PAC and the ACC were going to gobble up the B12, all I can do is point my finger and deliver a hearty laugh.

I'm proud of the B12.  They've adapted and done well for themselves.  Bully for them!

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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2023, 04:37:28 PM »
I'm proud of the B12.  They've adapted and done well for themselves.  Bully for them!
losing Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado would kill most conferences for sure
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2023, 05:16:06 PM »
losing Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Missouri, Colorado would kill most conferences for sure
if at the same time
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2023, 05:33:51 PM »
It's a solid core for what?  They're now significantly underpaid compared to the New B12.  FSU and Miami are looking at over a decade of falling further and further behind... The University of Central Florida.
A solid core around which one could construct a decent athletic conference.  I'm not talking TV revenue, just that it's a pretty food core.  Add to that four pretty decent programs like NCSU and then you can afford four also rans like Louisville.  They aren't going to compete with SEC/B1G monies, but I see it as a better four team core than what the residual B12/Pac has.

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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2023, 05:50:17 PM »
The newly reformed Big 12 is going to play very entertaining football games. I think we all agree on that.
Without Texas or OU to play around, I think they'll garner about the viewership of the MWC.

This league is tailor made to have four teams all go 7-5. Texas isn't leaving due to money. It's leaving because they consistently lost out on top talent that knew the SEC puts kids in the NFL. That's not going to change. As more and more "foreign" schools divide what's left of the state's talent, the Big 12 will still play entertaining contests, but will be removed from national relevance.

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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2023, 05:53:11 PM »
I thought Texas had been recruiting at a high level for a while.

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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2023, 09:27:24 PM »
Texas left for $$$
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2023, 11:30:11 PM »
Both.

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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2023, 10:38:49 AM »
I thought Texas had been recruiting at a high level for a while.
Overall recruiting has been solid, but NOT being in the SEC has been hurting Texas in direct head-to-head recruiting battles against A&M, LSU, Florida, Auburn, Alabama, and your Georgia Bulldogs.  Leveling that playing field will help Texas recruit even better.

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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2023, 11:27:17 AM »
yup, kids get the idea that the SEC puts more players in the NFL draft

It  will be even more with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2023, 12:59:45 PM »
Maybe, I still think the elite recruits worry less about conference than program.  Does a 4 star with an offer from Kentucky think he hit the jackpot?

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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2023, 01:03:57 PM »
he may think he's going to prove himself vs other 4 & 5 stars and future NFL players

but, not the jackpot
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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2023, 01:06:13 PM »
Maybe, I still think the elite recruits worry less about conference than program.  Does a 4 star with an offer from Kentucky think he hit the jackpot?
I'm not talking about recruiting for or against Kentucky.

I'm talking about Texas in the B12, recruiting against A&M, LSU, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, and Auburn, in the SEC.

It's been a definite hinderance to Texas, and now it won't be.  That's worth more than all the money in the TV contract, to the coaches doing the recruiting.


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Re: B12 Realignment Talk Not Going Away
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2023, 01:30:23 PM »
and with recruits comes winning in most cases

and winning is profitable 
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