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The University of Colorado seems to be in a "betwixt and between" situation. They were always the far-west geographical outlier in the Big 7, Big 8, and Big 12. And a cultural outlier to some extent as well. They spent their last decade or so in the Big 12 mooning over the Pac-10, but then when they (along with Utah) joined it to form the Pac-12, they seemed to be the geographical outlier in the other direction.

As the Pac-12 (-2) seems very shaky these days, I won't be surprised to see Colorado come back to the Big 12. They'll make more money if they do.

But I don't think they'll be happy about it.

Kinda like your Depression Era grandma that never threw away extra fabric and hoarded beans, the Big 12 seems to be taking all who apply because, as God as their witness, they'll never collapse again!

I guess there's only a few actual "influential" teams in college football, and it's tough to get those teams to change conferences. However, the Big 12 seems to be a giant bag of generic potato chips. Nobody really wants them, but they'll do if they're the only thing available until dinner.

The Big 12 is looking more and more like Thursday/Friday night games, with something Saturday at 11am.

Kinda like your Depression Era grandma that never threw away extra fabric and hoarded beans, the Big 12 seems to be taking all who apply because, as God as their witness, they'll never collapse again!

I guess there's only a few actual "influential" teams in college football, and it's tough to get those teams to change conferences. However, the Big 12 seems to be a giant bag of generic potato chips. Nobody really wants them, but they'll do if they're the only thing available until dinner.

The Big 12 is looking more and more like Thursday/Friday night games, with something Saturday at 11am.

I mean, the B12 survives because its member schools actually care about, and watch, college football.  And putting name brands aside, the B12 plays interesting and competitive college football.

The TV numbers don't lie-- the B12 pulls in better ratings than the PAC and a B12 without Texas and OU is projected to continue to pull in better ratings than the PAC without USC/UCLA.  The B12 also pulls in better numbers than the ACC which has no true helmet schools. That could change with Texas and OU leaving but unless Clemson comes "back" and FSU somehow returns to its former glory, the ACC is a conference that nobody cares about or watches.  It's a basketball conference.

Yeah I actually liked the B12, at least in its original incarnation.  I'd rather be playing in the 1996 version of the B12, than in the 2024 version of the SEC.

But nobody in charge, ever asks me my opinion on these things.

a big way?

getting CU back to join with TCU??

A lot better off than the PAC and the ACC, as far as TV money goes.  And then, in a few years after the SEC and B1G are done picking apart the ACC, there will only be three major conferences, and the B12 will be one of them.

So yeah I'd say they're surviving bigly.

I'll agree when the top few of the ACC are pillaged

That could be a decade away, but for that entire decade, UCF will be making more money than both Miami and FSU.   The B12 is in a much better position than the ACC, simply because, people actually watch B12 football, and nobody gives a rat's ass about ACC football.  They're the PAC-East.

The ACC has two "football programs" of course, and then two other close to elite universities all around.  That's a pretty solid core, but if it erodes ...