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Topic: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here

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Cincydawg

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #70 on: August 22, 2022, 06:22:55 PM »
I think hiring the HC is such a crap shoot that even competent leadership can mess up several times in a row.  We've seen this at a number of prestigious programs of late (including USC if "Muleshoe" is a bust).  Finding a GOOD HC is the more rare thing, I think.

Ryan Day is doing well, but I might argue he's in a System that is elite.  Fickell has impressed me a lot, he did poorly at Ohio State.  Would Kirby Smart be an elite coach at Kentucky?  Arkansas and Kentucky look "real" to me, programs that can sustain 9-10 win seasons back to back to back.  Not many near current coaches have really impressed me with being heads and shoulders above.

A handful look to me to be very solid capable coaches, not quite elite, to me, yet.

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #71 on: August 22, 2022, 06:29:48 PM »
So, it's just a case of hiring the wrong coach three times in a row?  Six times out of the last seven?


Well, yeah.  Sooners hired Gibbs, Schenlly, and Blake.  The ags hired Franchione, Sherman, Sumlin, and Fisher.  Alabama hired Dubose, Franchione, Price, and Shula.

Bad Leadership in all those cases?  Or bad luck?  Was anyone TRYING to hire bad coaches?

You're a smart guy but you never fail to crack me up when you go into neanderthal Sooner-mode.  It's like the very mention of Texas makes you shut down your brain.

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #72 on: August 22, 2022, 06:35:35 PM »
The very mention of Texas makes my brain shut down too.... woof.

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #73 on: August 22, 2022, 06:40:11 PM »
The very mention of Texas makes my brain shut down too.... woof.
Neanderthal. ;)


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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #74 on: August 22, 2022, 06:51:23 PM »
now, leadership at the top of the program can make or break a coach

Devaney stuck with Osborne until he finally won something, most wouldn't have

Steve Peterson dropped Solich like he was hot, w/o a better option waiting for the job

Shawn Eichorst obviously couldn't handle Bo Pelini

and worse yet, Shawn was dumb enough to hire Mike Riley
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #75 on: August 22, 2022, 06:54:13 PM »
now, leadership at the top of the program can make or break a coach

Devaney stuck with Osborne until he finally won something, most wouldn't have

Steve Peterson dropped Solich like he was hot, w/o a better option waiting for the job

Shawn Eichorst obviously couldn't handle Bo Pelini

and worse yet, Shawn was dumb enough to hire Mike Riley

People at most programs are less patient than they were 30,40, 50 years ago.  Would Devaney have been allowed by the rest of the people involved in the program to make that same decision about Osborne, in the 2010s?  How long before HIS job would have been on the line?


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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2022, 06:54:16 PM »
Texas is one of few "blue bloods" with which UGA has a losing record, well, it's not that few, Bama of course, and Nebraska.

There aren't that many contests of course, mostly bowl games, only one with OU (which we won in convincing style).  


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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2022, 06:59:35 PM »
Texas is one of few "blue bloods" with which UGA has a losing record, 
apparently you'll get a chance to resolve that in a few seasons
how many games are the Dawgs down?
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« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2022, 07:04:04 PM »
apparently you'll get a chance to resolve that in a few seasons
how many games are the Dawgs down?
They might have had a better shot to get some wins over Texas if we WEREN'T joining the SEC, since we had a home-and-home scheduled in a few years, that will now need to be canceled.  I have no idea how often we'll play them in conference play.  Probably not a lot.

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #79 on: August 22, 2022, 07:07:14 PM »
apparently you'll get a chance to resolve that in a few seasons
how many games are the Dawgs down?
not as many as Nebraska
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #80 on: August 22, 2022, 07:08:30 PM »
had a late run of cursed luck
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #81 on: August 22, 2022, 07:09:03 PM »
Well, yeah.  Sooners hired Gibbs, Schenlly, and Blake.  The ags hired Franchione, Sherman, Sumlin, and Fisher.  Alabama hired Dubose, Franchione, Price, and Shula.

Bad Leadership in all those cases?  Or bad luck?  Was anyone TRYING to hire bad coaches?

You're a smart guy but you never fail to crack me up when you go into neanderthal Sooner-mode.  It's like the very mention of Texas makes you shut down your brain.
Hah!
Gibbs was a mediocre hire; Schnelly and Blake were terrible ones. Bad leadership was definitely in play at OU at the time. the A.D. position was a revolving door and the two presidents involved were not focused on football. David Boren came on a year before the Blake hire, but he did not intervene to prevent it, as he might have done a year or two later. Then, President Boren and A.D. Castiglione were effective and consistent supporters of the football program for the entire time of Bob Stoops' time as OU HFC.
Nobody tries to hire bad coaches.
Texas radio mediots ask some of the same questions I've asked. I've heard clips of them played on Oklahoma sports.
Maybe the very mention of Texas makes their brains shut down too.
Nebraska's fall is more understandable. Recruiting has been a problem since they lost connections with State of Texas recruits. And, I would say, they've had bad leadership.
But Texas has a lot more money than Nebraska does, has 3 of the largest 10 cities (a.k.a. media markets) in the USA, has the Great State of Texas from which to recruit, as well as a bigger national brand. And, yet, Texas over the last 10-12 years is effectively Nebraska. It's a situation that makes people wonder what is going on.
After all that, it's fine with me if it continues.
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #82 on: August 22, 2022, 07:13:45 PM »
Texas is one of few "blue bloods" with which UGA has a losing record, well, it's not that few, Bama of course, and Nebraska.

silly question, but if you want to watch a rerun of the last game played between the Dawgs and Huskers, it's gonna be on the Big Ten Network in less than an hour
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #83 on: August 22, 2022, 07:15:25 PM »
Local Austin radio does everything it can to stir the pot.  They intentionally attempt to drive controversy.  It's their business model.  

I get it that places like Norman and Tuscaloosa are a lot more protective of their programs, but that's not true of the Austin mediots at all.  It never has been.  Heck the local sports writer for the Austin fishwrap had a Heisman vote, and he gave it to Reggie Bush, not Vince Young.  They're contrarian assholes,  A lot like you, sometimes.

Your mindless drivel comes directly from rival internet message boards.  Do you really think that's a source that's likely to apply critical thinking to any subject related to Texas football? 

Anyway, Texas football will continue to shoot itself in the dick, or not, regardless of what you think or say on the matter. So there it is.

 

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