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Topic: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here

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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2022, 11:38:56 AM »
He's definitely pro-USC to the nth degree. He thinks that Lincoln Riley is the best coach in college football and that he will very quickly take USC back to its rightful place at the top of CFB.

Muleshoe inherited a program that went 11-2 in Stoops' last year, and he went 12-2, 12-2, 12-2, 9-2, 11-2.

Why Cowherd he thinks that after Muleshoe was basically one win a year better than Bob Stoops over the course of 18 years, and had the OU program in decline, is hard for me to see.
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« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2022, 12:40:45 PM »
I hope he's more right than wrong

I REALLY doubt it
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2022, 01:43:55 PM »
I figure for the Dawgs to be 14th they need to lose two regular season games and a bowl game, which is certainly possible.
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« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2022, 02:18:31 PM »
When does a top shelf program decline?  I’m trying to think of recent examples. 

FSU comes to mind when Bowden got too old, and then again when they let Fisher leave. 

Mack Brown and Texas really declined his last few years. 

It seems like mostly top programs decline when the elite coach leaves and the replacement bombs. 

I bet Nebraska wishes they didn’t fire Solich. 
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2022, 02:22:33 PM »
USC declined, but I hear they hired the best coach in the history of football and soccer and will win the NC ten times in a row.
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« Reply #47 on: August 21, 2022, 02:26:16 PM »
I don’t recall the exact circumstances of their decline. I know Pete left them for the NFL, but we’re they already slipping before then?  

Was Sark after Pete?  And wasn’t Kiffin the coach awhile?  
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« Reply #48 on: August 21, 2022, 04:01:48 PM »
I don't think Solich was going to last 10-20 seasons, but they should have kept him on until they could find a better option that Billy Callahan
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« Reply #49 on: August 21, 2022, 06:54:20 PM »
Solich won 9 games when they fired him. 
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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2022, 07:11:44 PM »
10 if you include the bowl game

he might not have been on the sideline, but it was his team
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« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2022, 07:25:47 PM »
Solich I believe was the last coach to come from the Original style of Nebraska football. Everybody since has tried to evolve the program. Callahan brought the west coast offense. Pellini brought toughness. 

None have been very successful. 
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #52 on: August 21, 2022, 07:58:39 PM »
Recruiting is important, or so I hear.
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« Reply #53 on: August 21, 2022, 09:01:36 PM »
Pelimni recruited toughness and not enough high level talent

but, he was more successful that Billy C. or Mike Riley, or Scott Frost
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #54 on: August 21, 2022, 10:36:02 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on August 21, 2022, 02:18:31 PM
When does a top shelf program decline?  I’m trying to think of recent examples.

FSU comes to mind when Bowden got too old, and then again when they let Fisher leave.

Mack Brown and Texas really declined his last few years.

It seems like mostly top programs decline when the elite coach leaves and the replacement bombs.

I bet Nebraska wishes they didn’t fire Solich.
The air went out of Bobby Bowden's balloon at FSU when OU beat the 'Noles in the 2000 (season) Orange Bowl for the NC. FSU had finished in the top 5 for something like 13 straight years, had won the Natty for '93 and '99, and been runner-up in '98. And Bowden never threatened to repeat any of that after that Orange Bowl game. It's like that game took the heart out of him or something.

Nebraska should have waited till they found someone certainly better before the fired Solich. Pelini too, I guess, although I thought that he was all that Nebraska prided itself on not being.
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Re: 2022 College Football Season - It's Almost Here
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2022, 07:46:04 AM »
One program we oft note that has never faded for more than 2-3 years is OSU of course, it's remarkable.  Others have had mediocre spells, and some recovered (Bama).

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