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ELA

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~Soccer Thread~
« on: September 05, 2017, 06:15:33 PM »
Not sure there's enough interest to make it more specific.

All of those good vibes coming off the Gold Cup and the last games of qualifying seem to be evaporating quickly.

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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2017, 08:27:13 PM »
US should still qualify. If you break down the squad there just isn't much talent in this generation. The USMNT of 2009 would just blow this side apart in a match.  

Pulisic has the potential to someday be a top 30 player in the world. However keep the emphasis on someday. People need keep the all time best US player ever talk a rest for the time being. He still needs to adjust to playing 60+ matches season and being a marked man. And when you are the focal point, coaches, some of which know what they are doing will find every single deficiency in your game and make your life miserable. 

Gonzales admittedly is very good on his club sides but has largely been a disaster in defense for the national side.  

Bradley has regressed a bit playing in Toronto, Also his game suffers because we don't have a Stu Holden type next to him (the lack of which is our biggest hole) who can distrubute. That being said despite the regression it doesn't look like there is anyone coming up in the next 5 years who could challenge him.

Tim Howard is still the best keeper we got and he's past it. We can't produce a decent keeper anymore?

Dempsey could be a decent sub/starter in the next WC but that's it for him.

Right now with Zusi and undead Demarcus Beasley at LB/RB its been a tire fire.

Yedlin, Wood and maybe Johnson could be solid pros but that's pretty much their ceiling. Brooks and Cameron are OK.

Not buying this Nagbe thing. People like him because occasionally he does soccer like things sort of like what those continential players do. However he's terrible at the international level. Dribbles way too much, constantly turns the ball over, is a traffic cone in defense and doesn't really score goals. You can get away with that in MLS but its just not going to work at a higher level. 

Its slim pickings, and its going to be this way for a while. At least the US can look forward to the everyone qualifies 2022 tourney.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2017, 08:32:02 PM by rook119 »

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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2017, 10:05:46 AM »
day of judgement. have a good chance, but conditions aren't ideal. pulisic might be hampered a bit as well. still, all things considered, we're in as good a spot as we could ask after the start (and last month) to this cycle.

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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2017, 10:44:32 AM »
I think I used to get beIN, but not in HD, but last time I tried to watch it, it had been moved to a different tier.  Surprised it's so tough to watch this match here.

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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2017, 12:18:59 PM »
home team gets to pick broadcast. get the go90 app. it's free (and for verizon it doesn't count against data) and has all bein games.

home teams getting to pick broadcast is fine, but if the away team wants to dual cast they should be allowed, imo. or let fox/espn/whoever pay a fee to bein to pick up game in us.

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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2017, 12:32:03 PM »
So, not sure what Rook meant by the last statement "everyone qualifies 2022 tournament"....

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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2017, 12:36:36 PM »
normally just 32 teams qualify for world cup. but in 2026 they are expanding to 48, so almost everyone with a pulse gets in

edit: seems he likely missed the year, as did i. it's 2026 not 2022 that it expands.
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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2017, 12:47:41 PM »
Right, the guess is that CONCACAF will go from 3.5 to 6.7, meaning all 6 teams still playing would have already qualified, and a nation that didn't even make it to the hex would still be getting a play in game.

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« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2017, 01:50:51 PM »
concacaf goes from 3.5 to 6. but the us/canada/mex are likely to host and hasn't been determined how they will handle multi-nation hosts autobids.

bids for each confederation- new bids (old bids)
afc - 8 (4.5)
caf - 9 (5)
concacaf - 6 (3.5)
conmebol - 6 (4.5)
ofc - 1 (0.5)
uefa - 16 (13)
playoffs - 2 (0)

total bids 48 (31 plus host)

the old way gave the host nation an auto bid on top of allotment (why the math adds to only 31), but the new format pulls the auto bid from the allotment. except with multiple host teams it is still undetermined.

also, the playoff spots will be a 6 team playoff and will consist of 1 team from each confed (except uefa) plus 1 from host confed. the top 2 fifa ranked teams in this tournament will get a bye, and play winner of the other matches for one of the 2 spots.

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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2017, 02:26:33 PM »
probably won't matter for us, but the socceroos (australia) just won their confed playoff spot to be in the november playoff with the concacaf playoff team (likely hon or pan, but could be us)

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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2017, 08:18:08 PM »
Heh, I kind of hope we get eliminated on an own goal

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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2017, 08:47:59 PM »
May yet back in courtesy of Mexico and Costa Roca

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Re: ~Soccer Thread~
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2017, 09:05:36 PM »
Thank God Pulicic was cleared

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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2017, 09:48:45 PM »
probably won't matter for us, but the socceroos (australia) just won their confed playoff spot to be in the november playoff with the concacaf playoff team (likely hon or pan, but could be us)
Well you're right that it isn't going to matter.

 

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