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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #126 on: May 18, 2021, 11:01:09 AM »
The MLB local ratings I believe are still strong.  It no longer exists as a national sport.  The NBA pivoted to marketing stars a generation ago.  A lot of people in their teens and 20s are more fans of players than teams.  So their national numbers are strong.  MLB doesn't have that.  Fans watch their teams, but don't care about the sport as a whole.
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #127 on: May 18, 2021, 11:03:21 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 18, 2021, 10:35:29 AM
the game evolved to the bold.  That's part of the problem.

the DH, infield shifts, no stolen bases, not much small ball.

take the game back 40 years, it's a beautiful game
What are the odds the game regresses back to how it was played 40 years ago?  It's exaclty like conference realignment - you can't go backwards.  
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The evolved part of the "3 true outcomes" style of play is that the maximized strategy for winning also happens to be the most boring to watch is speeding up baseball's demise.  
Steps could be taken, but.......according to those like longhorn, it's some perfect sport on a pedestal that mustn't be altered in any way.
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #128 on: May 18, 2021, 11:16:35 AM »
not saying it's going back, just pointing out that evolution has caused some of the problems with the game

as you know....... evolution isn't always for the better
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #129 on: May 18, 2021, 11:35:55 AM »
But you're ignoring other things bad about previous eras.  
We could still have whites only if the game didn't evolve.
We could still have the Yankees vs Dodgers every season if the game didn't evolve.
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Evolution of the game is inevitable and it's silly to be against anything that is inevitable.  And the evolution you're calling bad is good for winning games.  That's their job - those in charge.  You win games, you get playoff revenue, you become a winning brand and you make more money that way.  Except with all of the revenue sharing, winning is no longer needed in order to make money.  MLB is The Producers.  Which, in another way, isn't a good thing.
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #130 on: May 18, 2021, 11:39:02 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on May 18, 2021, 11:16:35 AM


as you know....... evolution isn't always for the better
This really is a great point.
In situations when you have influence over how things inevitably evolve, you do that - you influence it.  No, MLB isn't perfect.  It should be influenced to evolve for its own survival.  But it's not.  There are tiny, incremental changes that could lead us away from the boring method of playing ball, but they're not taking those measures.  

Same as the constitution.  No, it's not a perfect document.  It should be ammended to evolve for its own survival. 
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EVERYONE who is for stagnation is (on a long-enough timeline) shown to be wrong.
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #131 on: May 18, 2021, 11:39:38 AM »
I haven't watched an inning this year, which is too bad because I hear the Sox are really good.

Getting rid of the plate umpire would do a lot of good, I think.
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #132 on: May 18, 2021, 11:41:00 AM »
In a society obsessed with controversy, you want to get rid of the umpire.  
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Perhaps you shouldn't apply to be the commissioner.
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #133 on: May 18, 2021, 11:47:45 AM »
If I was the Commish, the All Star Game would be played in Atlanta.
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #134 on: May 18, 2021, 11:48:57 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 18, 2021, 11:35:55 AM
But you're ignoring other things bad about previous eras. 
We could still have whites only if the game didn't evolve.
We could still have the Yankees vs Dodgers every season if the game didn't evolve.
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Evolution of the game is inevitable and it's silly to be against anything that is inevitable.  And the evolution you're calling bad is good for winning games.  That's their job - those in charge.  You win games, you get playoff revenue, you become a winning brand and you make more money that way.  Except with all of the revenue sharing, winning is no longer needed in order to make money.  MLB is The Producers.  Which, in another way, isn't a good thing.
Blacks being allowed into MLB is not the game evolving but the fans evolving

not having the Yankees vs Dodgers is not the game evolving the game didnt change
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #135 on: May 18, 2021, 11:52:29 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 18, 2021, 11:47:45 AM
If I was the Commish, the All Star Game would be played in Atlanta.
Not helpful.  
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #136 on: May 18, 2021, 11:52:58 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 18, 2021, 10:19:10 AM
lol, nothing you shared negated any of my points.
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The average game is over 3 hours.....then I guess we're lucky every game is average.  Oh wait.....
I specify no one's playing pickup baseball and you cite little league numbers (which are decreasing every year).  It hurts my head.
Baseball used to be #1.  Boxing used to be #2.  This isn't 1940 anymore. 
MLB's average fan is easily the oldest of the 4 major sports, and it's aging further.  Only 7% of MLB viewers are under 18.  What do you think the NBA's is? 
no different then Pro Football or even College Football

I guess you could watch a golf tournament oh wait that lasts for 4 days

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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #137 on: May 18, 2021, 11:53:59 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on May 18, 2021, 11:52:29 AM
Not helpful. 
City treasurer begs to differ.
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #138 on: May 18, 2021, 11:54:06 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on May 18, 2021, 11:48:57 AM
Blacks being allowed into MLB is not the game evolving but the fans evolving

not having the Yankees vs Dodgers is not the game evolving the game didnt change
The first one is semantics, as what is the game without anyone to watch it?
The second statement shows that you're out of your depth on the topic.  Not unique for you.
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Re: ~2021 MLB Thread~
« Reply #139 on: May 18, 2021, 11:54:49 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on May 18, 2021, 11:52:58 AM


I guess you could watch a golf tournament oh wait that lasts for 4 days


Basically the only sport with fans older than MLB.  You're amazing at this!
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