~2017 NFL Thread~

[MrNubbz]

I wouldn't that's one of the signs of the apocalypse.I would like like to see both win one before I exit for the Big  Stage.My older brothers,dad & uncles caught the glory - I got the Horror

[FearlessF]

gotta have a QB in the no fun league, Browns have had their share of top draft picks over the years.  Either draft the guy, or trade that #1, #2, #3 pick for an established QB.

Hey, at least you get to see Jamie Erdahl in London

[Mdot21]

gotta have a QB in the no fun league, Browns have had their share of top draft picks over the years.  Either draft the guy, or trade that #1, #2, #3 pick for an established QB.

I liked Kizer in the 2nd- big time talent but he was always gonna be a project. Not sure they have the coaches to develop that talent. 
Browns have taken QBs in the 1st rd before, problem is they were just bad picks. None of them really had the talent. Couch, Manziel, Brady Quinn, Weeden- really good college players- but none were really fits for the NFL. Maybe as back-ups somewhere, but you don't pick a QB in the 1st to be a back-up. 
Kizer has the size/body and the arm strength you look for. Browns just need so much help everywhere. If they are smart they'll trade down acquire picks. Darnold or Rosen aren't going to fix shit. They need players everywhere.

[MrNubbz]

I went ballistic when they took Weeden(who turned 29 as a Rookie) and Manziel.I stated that this board could actually scout talent better than many front offices.After all we follow CFB pretty much all season.Anyone with a corpuscle of common sense knew Weeden/Manziel would be journeyman at best.Haslem hires 3 Harvard dervishes in the front office to evaluate/procure collegiate talent.So what do they do in their 1st draft?Pick 5...5 WR's after letting Travis Benjamin(chargers) 14.5 YPC & Taylor Gabrial(Falcons) 15.5 YPC walk.That front office should have never sniffed another draft.Just because Haslem made billions in one field doesn't mean he has a K-L-E-E-E-W in another

[rook119]

I liked Kizer in the 2nd- big time talent but he was always gonna be a project. Not sure they have the coaches to develop that talent.
Browns have taken QBs in the 1st rd before, problem is they were just bad picks. None of them really had the talent. Couch, Manziel, Brady Quinn, Weeden- really good college players- but none were really fits for the NFL. Maybe as back-ups somewhere, but you don't pick a QB in the 1st to be a back-up.
Kizer has the size/body and the arm strength you look for. Browns just need so much help everywhere. If they are smart they'll trade down acquire picks. Darnold or Rosen aren't going to fix shit. They need players everywhere.

There is no team there. If they draft Darnold or Rosen or whoever they need to sit him for a year. Kiser was always a project and they just gave him the ball for some reason. Their QB plan has always been a way too old or someone who is too green. I know experience is valuable for some rookies but playing with a bunch of no hopers who wont be in the league in a couple years isn't worthwhile experience.  
Put Watson on that team and he is probably almost just as bad. 

[Mdot21]

There is no team there. If they draft Darnold or Rosen or whoever they need to sit him for a year. Kiser was always a project and they just gave him the ball for some reason. Their QB plan has always been a way too old or someone who is too green. I know experience is valuable for some rookies but playing with a bunch of no hopers who wont be in the league in a couple years isn't worthwhile experience.  
Put Watson on that team and he is probably almost just as bad.

I think there might be a couple teams willing to trade up to get Rosen or Darnold. The Bengals, Broncos, Jags, Jets, and Bills all look like pretty solid teams to me who are in dire need for a legitimate QB. Especially the Jags and Broncos. Those two teams have the rosters on defense to win big and win right now. They have everything except a QB. If I'm the Jags I'm definitely going all in on trying to get Darnold or Rosen to pair him with Fournette and that fast, physical young defense. Darnold and Rosen are the two best QB's in an NFL draft that I've seen in awhile. They are both light years better at the same stage than any of the QB's that went first round the past few drafts. I don't think QB's should be drafted high unless they are worth the risk. Those two guys seem worth it to me. Darnold has all of the physical traits you look for, and Rosen is 6'4+ and as gifted a pure thrower of the football as you'll ever see.

And I'm with you right there on Watson. He'll be a great player for a long time I think, and I felt like he was the only QB worthy of a 1st round pick in that draft but I wouldn't have taken him #1 overall if I was the Browns. They had too many needs and not enough help. Had they thrown him out there as a rookie he'd have fared better than Kizer but not much. Maybe the Browns have 1 or 2 wins right now instead of 0.

[Mdot21]

By the way how nice is it not having to listen to that moron Joe Buck? 

[Mdot21]

Kirk Cousins is really good. I knew he'd be a legit NFL QB. Never thought he'd be this good. He has like no help. Redskins WR's and RB's are about as mediocre as it gets. I hope for his sake he can get out of Washington and pick what team he wants to go play for. I think he goes to Jacksonville or Denver- that's a legit team that can make a deep playoff run.

[Mdot21]

Redskins OL down 4 starters now and it's showing. Cousins has no help out there right now. Have to think this game is over down 10 with only 1 QTR to go. Cousins has no time and average WRs and RBs to work with.

[ELA]

Cousins doesn't even look at Pryor anymore.  Letting Jackson and Garcon go, and paying Pryor looks like a terrible move.

[Mdot21]

Cousins doesn't even look at Pryor anymore.  Letting Jackson and Garcon go, and paying Pryor looks like a terrible move.

Ridiculous move letting both go. Should've kept one. Pryor is a great athlete. He's not a great WR. Yet. And he may never be. He should've switched in college. He could've been the next Calvin Johnson. He had that type of athleticism and size. Just a complete freak athlete.

[ELA]

With under a minute left, no timeouts, and 85 yards to cover, you call back to back inside screen passes?  Even if that one doesn't get tipped and picked you've run almost all the rest of the time off.

[rook119]

I know its easy to hate nanobubbles but damn I love watching him. Wilson is the closest thing we have to a college QB in the pros. He kind of gives you an idea what Flutie could have been if someone gave him a chance while Flutie was still in his prime. 

[ELA]

It was like I got to watch MSU twice this weekend, with all kinds of yardage not leading to points, and watching the opponent cash in the few chances they had.

Frustrating weekend